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Does this pocket universe have space-time? Because Superman can manipulate space-time to escape.Monarch Laciel said:Jin's sealing literally traps the opponent in an inescapable pocket universe. It isn't a barrier that can be broken through with force, or by "affecting the duality between elementary particles and antiparticles"
Superman's profile states that he can close and open rifts in space-time. But I personally don't recall him doing the former so you should ask whoever added it. Also Jin doesn't have BFR or multi-universal range so I doubt his sealing seals you inside some random pocket universe.Monarch Laciel said:That shows him sealing a hole in space-time, not opening one. Nor is there any implication that if he can even create a hole he can direct a hole to where he wants to go, and if he ends up in some empty pocket universe somewhere, that's still Jin's win.
I've read God of high school, and nowhere besides that one moment do we see jin use the gourd to seal people's memory.Monarch Laciel said:You don't need to quote my entire reply if all you are asking about is one point. It slows down the page
Jin's memories being sealed within the Gourd is a major plot point that drives an entire arc.
if he was willing to use it, you and I know their were PLENTY of chances he could have used it to his advantage, plus the whole sealing memories thing is fishy as it was we don't know who sealed his memories and why would he In The first place. Idk it's more indicated to be an ability he's incapable of using.Monarch Laciel said:Why would he not do it? He is the owner ofthe gourd. Now he has his memories back, he should know how to do it. And why wouldn't he be willing?
Superman has a resist to mind manipulation. He fought someone who can destroy the mind but this same character can't put down Superman.Monarch Laciel said:Jin could also use it to seal Superman's memories and leave him a vegetable
Make a CRT if you disagree with Superman's page. Superman profile states that he can manipulate space-time and he has shown closing it. There's nothing that contradicts him being able to open it.Monarch Laciel said:I wasn't implying Jin could BFR him into a random universe. I was stating he could seal him inside the pocket universe. Give me scans of Superman creating and directing holes in space time. Not of him sealing them.
Heat vision works at a molecular level generally.Monarch Laciel said:Sub-atomic heat vision requires actual precision and concentration, using the heat vision in a concentrated needle beam, rather than simply a field wide blast, and the clones and Jin can block or tank anything less.
What? Matter manipulation is on the durability Negation page. Also Heat Vision isn't heat/fire manipulation, it's energy projection.Monarch Laciel said:Just because something works at a molecular level doesn't mean it ignores durability, so your point is moot. "Works at a molecular level" could simply mean his heat vision is touching every molecule, which wouldn't ignore durability seeings as all heat always touches every molecule in the hot object.
Anonymous, no the limit to his Na Bong has been shown to be X 250,000, and he is solar system level WITH the na bong on, we can't assume he can go higher just because he could possibly remove more limiters.AnonymouXOtakuX said:@Monarch, i think he can, because, if we were to treat this as what it is (limiter removal), he can continue removing limiters.
I already debunked this argument. Superman's space-time manipulation will allow him to escape sealing.Monarch Laciel said:Superman can be sealed by Jin's magic gourd, as he has no resistances to that. He would also take heavy damage from Kinto-Un's magic lightning as he has no resistances to magic.
How does cancelling out absolute zero equate to atomic destruction, and how does being beyond any standard scientific scale do the same? I need to see scans of Superman explicitly ignoring the durability of someone on the same level as him with his heat vision.Grudgeman1706 said:Also as @XblackX stated,Supermans heat vision does burn in a atomic level. See [Here.] how superman she heat vision can cancel out and output temperatures at ABSOLUTE Zero. Even stated [his heatvison is beyond any standard scientific scale.]