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COLLIDING FISTS OF KI! Son Goku vs Akuma

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@Leogian4511

Asura's Wrath Oni Akuma is at least Large Star level for facing Mantra Asura.
 
No it's still there. Basically the same akuma has raging demon and can bfr but goku is faster so neither will connect (akuma being 10c goku is 25c). Akuma has way more stamina. But goku speed will be to much so goku for the win

Edit oh wait speed is equal then akuma he can bfr goku, Kill him with raging demon, or Outlast goku by having way more stamina.
 
So is this like Cell Saga Goku? Cause if not Akuma gets obliterated effortlessly. Post Super Saiyan God base form Goku is insane, even without his god form, and with speed equalized, instant transmission gives goku an advantage as he can use it for evasion or attacking.
 
Hmm, this is a tricky one since Akuma's raging demon likely won't affect Goku due to the fact that the raging demon only damages the soul if the person is full of negative emotions anger, hatred, darkness etc. However, Goku is pure of heart and due to the fact that this is the Full-power SSJ means that Goku is in complete control of all his emotions meaning he isn't full of rage like most of the SSJ transformations.
 
I agree with Yojimbo.

The raging demon won´t be effective against Goku imo either.

And i think even if the skills differ, Goku can still blind Akuma with Solar Flare or distract him with energy blasts just like he did with Frieza, i think Goku wins with High Dificulty.

Not to mention that if we allow Goku to teleport away from the battlefield,so he could have time to charge a spirit bomb. he could use it easly on Akuma.
 
@Miles

He never said Goku wins

And Akuma has BFR, can teleport himself, has his own energy based attacks, slightly higher AP, and vastly superior stamina.


He also IMO is a more skilled fighter
 
@Iron Kirby

No BFR as stated in the OP.

Goku has Large Star Level AP in Base form and Large Star Level+ as Full Power SSJ

Oni Akuma has at least Large Star Level, possibly higher
 
PTSOXMONKEY99 said:
@Iron Kirby
No BFR as stated in the OP.

Goku has Large Star Level AP in Base form and Large Star Level+ as Full Power SSJ

Oni Akuma has at least Large Star Level, possibly higher
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Sorry for forgeting.

No. Goku has Large Star Level AP that got buffed to LS+ in the ROSAT.

We should use basic large star AP for fairness to both.
 
I thought the fact that Oni Akuma was stronger than base Goku and had a "possibly higher" as an AP would even this out when combined with his superior stamina and advanced techniques.

Also, it still says Cell Saga Goku is Large Star Level base, Large Star level+ as Full Power SSJ on his profile.
 
If you say so.


No, it says Large Star Level, increased to LS+ in FPSSJ which was a new form in the Cell Saga. The android saga starts as LS
 
Cell Saga includes android saga.


Regardless, Akuma outlasts Goku. Even if he does or doesn't have the initial edge, Goku isn't going to beat Akuma in 5-15 minutes before he tires out, at which point his stats will decrease simply due to exertion and fatigue.
 
Goku has superior skills in martial arts than Akuma, being able to pick up skills. The Ranging Demon would have no effect, Goku's teleportation is just as effective, Goku has a more versatile level of ranged attacks than Akuma (or Asura AKA the one Akuma fought), and Goku is stilled enough to take him on hand to hand.

It's not even true Akuma has that much more stamina, he downright turned into a statue for 500 years after his duel with Asura (for.... some reason).

The only way Goku can lose if he understimated him somehow
 
Goku based off of better durability, superior skills (solar flare, sealing technique, instant transmission kamehameha, etc) and what others have said above.
 
battle could go either way, goku might have the advantage in skill, AP and Dura, but akuma has hell of a lot more stamina, plus he could BFR goku

i vote for inconclusive for now
 
Wow, the Shun Goku Satsu is being downplayed here. Not only has it worked on people like Goku (aka Gouken), but Goku is only pure by DB standards. Soul hax is soul hax, and given that it's Akuma's signature attack, he'll use it to win. Goku rarely pulls out the Solar Flare (so rarely that it is upsetting to see people use it in vs matches), and both have enough skills/experience to render the others moot, so that shouldn't be brought up either.

Also, he turned to stone AFTER 500 years. Not DURING 500 years, @Xantospoc
 
The real cal howard said:
Wow, the Shun Goku Satsu is being downplayed here. Not only has it worked on people like Goku (aka Gouken), but Goku is only pure by DB standards. Soul hax is soul hax, and given that it's Akuma's signature attack, he'll use it to win. Goku rarely pulls out the Solar Flare (so rarely that it is upsetting to see people use it in vs matches), and both have enough skills/experience to render the others moot, so that shouldn't be brought up either.
Also, he turned to stone AFTER 500 years. Not DURING 500 years, @Xantospoc
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what do you mean when you say "Goku is only pure by DB standards"?
 
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