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Roronoa Zoro VS Saber

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Surprised this hasn't been done yet.

- Speed equalised

- Both at their peak

- Both willing to kill

- Fighting takes place in Dressrosa

- Avalon's active is restriced

Fight to the death, who wins and why?

Zoro: 0 Votes

Saber: 7 Votes -> Burning Full Fingers, BlackDaryl, Gemmysaur, ShinyMagicalGirl, Sage God Slayer, Fabtastic Glasses, AguilaR101

Roronoa Zoro Pre Timeskip
Saber arturia
 
Isn't Saber Large Mountain level at her peak?

Even it's Mountain Level Saber, I'm not seeing how he's getting past her Regenerationn. And she can also retreat into Avalon for whatever purposes. Both of them have precognition but I feel like Saber is more skilled. Must be her charisma that's getting to me. But yeah I think Saber wins. Can he even tank her Excalibur? Even if he can, it'll surely impede him for the rest of the fight. Even if he's very tenacious, it'll still be an advantage for Saber.
 
Probably Saber due to misc powerset like lol!Avalon.

Also, Small Island Excaliblast.

Burning Full Fingers said:
Isn't Saber Large Mountain level at her peak?
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Mountain level physically, Small Island level with Excaliblast.
 
Also, that Small Island Excalibur was only the leftover energy IIRC, 90% of it was tanked by Bellerophon.

Another thing to note here is Saber's armor. She can afford to take hits as long as she directed the attacks to it, which is something that she often do (her battle with Diarmuid, Assassin, tanking GoB spam and Enuma Elish). She can also restore her armor as long as she has enough prana, something that she won't have to worry about since this is Saber at her strongest which means this is Saber with Rin as her master and Rin is capable of supporting herself as well as both Saber and Shirou while they're using Excalibur and UBW respectively.

Saber pretty much takes this.
 
Ok, since Avalon's active is bonkers, we'll take that away. Does anyone change votes?
 
From what I know about both characters, I'd say Saber will pull through and win. Also, what Gemmysaur said. Prana Burst and Excaliblast are a cool combo.
 
Depends whos the better swordsman.

Saber is extremely honorable preferring to have a regular sword fight and Zoro would gladly accept the match.
 
Vote for Seibah. Her Invinsible Air would make swordfight harder for Zoro, although maybe not that long. Avalon regen and EKUSU....KARIBAAAA helps too
 
Saber has better defenses and ranged attacks in the form of prana burst and Excalibur, Regenerationn also helps her a lot if she has avalon equipped (though it wouldn't help as a good shield given its canon limitations).
 
Aren't stomps against the rules? Everyone here (including myself) agrees Zoro has no business fighting her and would lose. You might as well put him against Deadpool.

Sure Zoro is more skilled with the blade but that doesn't matter against the power Saber is packing.

Zoro's only real advanrage is this fight is his superior speed but . . . you equilized his one advantage. . . . and even then I am voting for Saber.

Edit: Spelling mistakes and typos
 
I don't mind this discussion taking place but don't put it at "notable loses" under Zoro when this is basically the equivalent of putting Hulk against Juggernaut.
 
NotEvenHuman said:
@Getaruka A decisive fight and a stomp are two different things. This is decisive, not a stomp.
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It can only be decicive if he actually stands a chance, he does not against Saber so long speed is equelized which is his only true advantage against her.
 
@Getaruka

I've no idea where you're getting City level+ Zoro but Zoro is Mountain level via powerscaling. He is also likely higher since he has not fought seriously yet and hasn't used his full potential.
 
My bad, I thought city is above mountain - I am still new to the tiering here and all.

But this is still unfair in since Zoro's main strength has always been his speed (imo).
 
There was another discussion which put Zoro, Sanji and others in the Mountain level range.

Also if you don't mind me asking, have you checked out the Attack Potency page? It seems to me you're confusing the fact that Mountain > City+
 
Saber's physical blows are all Mountain level, she's only Small Island level with a fully charged Excaliblast. Zoro's profile says he's Mountain level for one-shotting Pica, who is Mountain level.

No, this is not a stomp. A stomp would be if Saber lolblitzed and one-shotted Zoro as soon as the fight started, which is not the case here at all. Zoro can put up a damn good fight here, therefore it's not a stomp.
 
NotEvenHuman said:
Saber's physical blows are all Mountain level, she's only Small Island level with a fully charged Excaliblast. Zoro's profile says he's Mountain level for one-shotting Pica, who is Mountain level.
No, this is not a stomp. A stomp would be if Saber lolblitzed and one-shotted Zoro as soon as the fight started, which is not the case here at all. Zoro can put up a damn good fight here, therefore it's not a stomp.
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Excalibur is still cited as tho it's her trump card and it takes a while to charge, the nerfs on Zoro here are much heavier on him than on Saber.

How does Zoro put a good fight when she has an answer to anything he can do? Taking away his speed is too much, if anything this battle should be remade with half speed at best and even then it's a serious cripple to Zoro.
 
She has far too much range and with the precog she posseses and the speed going down on Zoro and not her she will still manage to avoid his attacks while he will have to go through the hell she'll implict upon him.
 
Yes, Excalibur does take a while to charge, and Zoro would have absolutely no problem in attacking her while she's charging.The only nerf on Zoro here is his speed, and if that wasn't removed, he would be the one stomping. Half of Zoro's speed would still be in the Mach 100+ range, so he would still blitz if we did that.
 
NotEvenHuman said:
Yes, Excalibur does take a while to charge, and Zoro would have absolutely no problem in attacking her while she's charging.The only nerf on Zoro here is his speed, and if that wasn't removed, he would be the one stomping. Half of Zoro's speed would still be in the Mach 100+ range, so he would still blitz if we did that.
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But she doesn't need Excal to win, she has too many options and given her intellect she would understand she doesn't need that to win.
 
Getaruka said:
She has far too much range and with the precog she posseses and the speed going down on Zoro and not her she will still manage to avoid his attacks while he will have to go through the hell she'll implict upon him.
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Her higher range is only useful if he tries to fight a ranged battle, which is completely out of character and doesn't go well with his fighting style when compared to CQC. And Saber's speed not going down doesn't mean anything. Equalizing speed means both characters will move at the same speed during the match, Zoro won't be going through any hell here.
 
Getaruka said:
She has far too much range and with the precog she posseses and the speed going down on Zoro and not her she will still manage to avoid his attacks while he will have to go through the hell she'll implict upon him.
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Zoro also has precog so that even things out, speed is equalised. It's not being taked from one, nor leaving the other intact. You could also give them both human movement speed, doesn't really matter.

Also need I remind you Diarmuid is only City level and he posed a serious threat to Saber with his skills? Zoro definitely has a chance to win this.
 
NotEvenHuman said:
Getaruka said:
She has far too much range and with the precog she posseses and the speed going down on Zoro and not her she will still manage to avoid his attacks while he will have to go through the hell she'll implict upon him.
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Her higher range is only useful if he tries to fight a ranged battle, which is completely out of character and doesn't go well with his fighting style when compared to CQC. And Saber's speed not going down doesn't mean anything. Equalizing speed means both characters will move at the same speed during the match, Zoro won't be going through any hell here.
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It doesn't even things out since her precog would still be useful while his is useless against her attacks and while it's against Zoro's character to fight from afar it's not for Saber.

Unless Saber commits to fighting him close range (in which case he would easily overpower her and cut straight through her defences) Zoro stands no chance.
 
How would Zoro's precog be useless? Saber is not Kojirou, precog works against her just fine. And Saber also prefers fighting from close range, as you can see in literally every fight she has been in.

And both Zoro and Saber have the same physical strenght and around the same skill level, how the hell would he overpower her easily?
 
Okay let's get two things out of the way.

First, please stop double commenting. Makes it hard to follow what you're trying to say.

Second, please stop quoting large amounts of text. Same reason.

and while it's against Zoro's character to fight from afar it's not for Saber.
Saber has always fought in close range, also she's a swordswoman of honor and would never turn down from a fair duel. It goes without saying that she will be fighting Zoro in close range.
 
NotEvenHuman said:
How would Zoro's precog be useless? Saber is not Kojirou, precog works against her just fine. And Saber also prefers fighting from close range, as you can see in literally every fight she has been in.
And both Zoro and Saber have the same physical strenght and around the same skill level, how the hell would he overpower her easily?
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Zoro still got Asura in his backpocket AND he is much better at swordmanship than her. He could do short work of her swordmanship and quickly break through her blade and land a direct strike (like he did to Tashigi, Hyouzou, Hatchan and others).
 
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