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Bleach Revisions Part 3: Post-Timeskip (Fullbring, TYBW and CFYOW Novel) (Part 2)

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A continuation of this thread. Not gonna post everything here again since we are nearly done.

Introductio
The 3rd and probably final part of a huge overhaul for Bleach. The basic things we'll be doing is adding new accepted calcs, adding the multipliers and fixing up some scaling.

I'll start off by listing stuff that was accepted that we'll be using for this arc:

Multipliers
The multipliers we'll be using are:

  • Ichigo's Bankai which is a x5 multiplier to his stats.
  • Renji's Bankai which is a x5 multiplier to his AP and Dura.
  • Kenpachi's Shikai which is a x7 multiplier to his AP and his Bankai which is a x5 multiplier to his stats.
  • Gremmy's Clones which is a x6 multiplier to his AP
  • Mask's Star Satsujin Punch which is a x10 multiplier.
  • Hikone's Resurrección and Gentei Kaijou which are both a x5 multiplier to their stats.
  • Yhwach's absorption which is just adding
Maths

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AP

Power Restored Ichigo is 67.32 Teratons (Country level) x 5 (for his Bankai) = 336.6 Teratons (Large Country level)

Merged Hollow Form Ichigo is 534.96 Zettatons (Planet level) x 5 (for his Bankai) = 2.6748 Yottatons (Planet level+)

Post-Royal Guard Training Renji is 336.6 Teratons (Large Country level) x 5 (for his Bankai) = 1.68 Petatons (Continent level+)

Post-Unohana Training Kenpachi is 336.6 Teratons (Large Country level) x 7 (for his Shikai) = 2.36 Petatons (Continent level+) x 5 (for his Bankai) = 11.78 Petatons (Multi-Continent level)

Gremmy is 336.6 Teratons (Large Country level) x 6 (for his clones) = 2.02 Petatons (Continent level+)

Partial Cheers Mask is 33.66 Teratons (Country level) x 10 (for his Star Satsujin Punch) = 336.6 Teratons (Large Country level)

2nd Fight Hikone is 336.6 Teratons (Large Country level) x 5 (for their Resurrección) = 1.68 Petatons (Continent level+) x 5 (for their Gentei Kaijou) = 8.4 Petatons (Multi-Continent level)

Yhwach is 534.96 Zettatons (Planet level) absorbs Ichigo who is 2.6748 Yottatons (Planet level+) = 3.5949312 Yottatons (Large Planet level)

Speed
Power Restored Ichigo is Mach 1132090.379009 (1.29c - FTL) x 5 (for his Bankai) = Mach 5660451.89505 = (6.47c - FTL)

Merged Hollow Form Ichigo is Mach 141511589.085 (161.9c - Massively FTL) x 5 (for his Bankai) = Mach 707557945.425 (809.5c - Massively FTL)

Post-Gremmy fight Kenpachi is Mach 5660451.89505 = (6.47c - FTL) x 5 (for his Bankai) = Mach 28302259.4753 (32.3c - FTL+)

2nd Fight Hikone is Mach 5660451.89505 = (6.47c - FTL) x 5 (for their Resurrección) = Mach 28302259.4753 (32.3c - FTL+) x 5 (for their Gentei Kaijou) = Mach 141511297.377 (161.9c - Massively FTL)

Basic Scaling
All Captains are above Nanao and Omaeda in speed.

Anyone who is stated to be "Captain level" should at least be above Hisagi who is one of the weaker Captain level character.

The Elite Sternritter including Uryu and Jugram are above the Lower tier Sternritter.

Profiles
Here I will post my version of what the profiles will look like with multipliers, calcs and updated scaling.

Shinigami

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Dangai Ichigo

Attack Potency: Multi-Continent level (As a Transcendent being, Ichigo is above a Resurrección and Gentei Kaijou released Hikone and CFYOW base Kenpachi. Far superior to a Transcendent Aizen even while holding back. Overpowered God Aizen's Ultra Fragor), higher with Saigo no Getsuga Tenshō (One-shot God Aizen with Mugetsu)

Speed: Massively FTL (As a Transcendent being Ichigo is above a Resurrección and Gentei Kaijou released Hikone and CFYOW base Kenpachi. Blitzed a Transcendent Aizen from a great distance without difficulty)

Durability: Multi-Continent level (Tanked God Aizen's Fragor)

Key: Post-Dangai Training

Ichigo Kurosaki (Post-Timeskip)
Attack Potency: Country level (Cut off Tsukishima's arm) | At least Country level (Far stronger than before, as he has regained all his Shinigami powers, on top of his Fullbring powers), Large Country level with Fullbring Bankai (Ichigo's Bankai multiplies his stats by 5. Overwhelmed Quilge Opie even after he had absorbed Ayon and activated Vollständig) | Multi-Continent level (According to Yhwach, he reclaimed the power he used to defeat Aize), Planet level with Merged Hollow Form (Capable of injuring a Soul King Absorbed Yhwach) | Large Planet level (Stated by Yhwach that Ichigo's Bankai was formidable. One-shot and killed Post-Power Absorption Yhwach on two separate occasions), higher with Merged Hollow Form (Superior to True Bankai)

Speed: FTL (Can keep up with Tsukishima) | At least FTL, higher with Fullbring Bankai | Massively FTL (Reclaimed the power he once had that he used to defeat Aizen), higher with Merged Hollow Form | Massively FTL (Ichigo's Bankai multiplies his stats by 5), higher with Merged Hollow Form

Durability: Country level | Country level, Large Country level with Fullbring Bankai | Multi-Continent level, Planet level with Merged Hollow Form | Large Planet level, higher with Merged Hollow Form

Key: Fullbring Arc | Power Restored | True Shikai | True Bankai

Kisuke Urahara
Attack Potency: Large Country level (Fought against Aski, his Hado 99 is this strong), Unknow with Bankai (His Bankai ignores conventional durability)

Speed: FTL (Was nonchalantly keeping up with Askin)

Durability: Large Country level

Key:
Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Yoruichi Shihoi
Attack Potency: Large Country level (Fought Aski), higher with Shunkō, even higher with Flash Goddess Form (Quickly overwhelmed Askin to the point of forcing him into Vollständig)

Speed: FTL (Kept up with and dodged Askin's arrows), higher with Shunkō, even higher with Flash Goddess Form (Blitzed Askin)

Durability: Large Country level (Took attacks from Askin)

Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Sosuke Aize
Attack Potency: Multi-Continent level (As a Transcendent being, Aizen is above a Resurrección and Gentei Kaijou released Hikone and CFYOW base Kenpachi) | Multi-Continent level (Far stronger than before) | Large Planet level (Comparable to Ichigo, was also stated by Urahara to have turned stronger)

Speed: Massively FTL (As a Transcendent being, Aizen is above a Resurrección and Gentei Kaijou released Hikone and CFYOW base Kenpachi) | Massively FTL (Faster than before) | Massively FTL (Kept up with Yhwach in their fight)

Durability: Multi-Continent level (Took a slash from Dangai Ichigo), immortality and Regenerationn also make him hard to kill | Multi-Continent level (More durable than before. Survived Ichigo's Mugetsu due to the Hōgyoku) | Large Planet level (Took attacks from Yhwach. Tanked Yhwach's shadows/darkness)

Key: Transcendent Aize | God Aize | Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Ichibē Hyōsube
Attack Potency: Continent level+ (Put up a fight against Yhwach and destroyed his Blut Vene Anhaben), can ignore conventional durability with Ichimonji

Speed: At least FTL (Kept up with Yhwach, who could react to and eventually absorb Mimihagi, and almost immediately caught up to him after knocking him a thousand ri away)

Durability: Continent level+ (Took blows from Yhwach)

Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Ōetsu Nimaiya
Attack Potency: Large Country level (Was stated by Shunsui that the combined strength of Squad Zero was greater than the Gotei 13. Casually defeated all of Yhwach's Elite Sternritter with a single strike of his blade before they were revived with Auswählen)

Speed: FTL (He is fast enough to quickly overwhelm four Sternritter, who were Yhwach's Elite Sternritter with rapid attacks and movements before most of them could react properly)

Durability: Large Country level (Did not even faze after cutting his own neck to drain his blood just to counter Askin's The Deathdealing and was still able to move to attack Askin and have a talk with him)

Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Tenjirō Kirinji
Attack Potency: Large Country level (Was stated by Shunsui that the combined strength of Squad Zero was greater than the Gotei 13)

Speed: FTL (Blitzed Suì-Fēng. He used shunpo to get from one of the floating cities to the main entrance to confront Yhwach, he appeared before Yhwach's Soldat could advance. During his time in Soul Society, he was known as "Lightning-Fast Tenjirō" (ÚøÀÞ┐àÒü«Õñ®þñ║ÚâÄ, Raijin no Tenjirō) for his skill in Shunpo)

Durability: Large Country level

Key:
Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Senjumaru Shutara
Attack Potency: Large Country level (Was stated by Shunsui that the combined strength of Squad Zero was greater than the Gotei 13. Defeated one of Yhwach's Sternritter without even using her Zanpakutō)

Speed: FTL (She is fast enough to overwhelm a Sternritter, with her rapid arms and movements before he even knew about it. Also, while the other members of the Zero Division discussed their plan to take Ichigo to the Royal Palace, Senjumaru left to retrieve Byakuya, Renji, Rukia and the broken Tensa Zangetsu. She carried them all back in large, translucent orbs, stating to those assembled that all of the ones on their list are present before the group knew that she was gone)

Durability: Large Country level

Key:
Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Shigekuni Yamamoto Genryusai
Attack Potency: Continent level+ with Bankai (Would have destroyed Soul Society, stated by Yhwach that he is the only person that can control the power of Yamamoto's Bankai), ignores conventional durability with Zanka No Tachi East and North

Speed: FTL (Far superior to the likes of Nanao and Omaeda. Kept up with Royd)

Durability: Continent level+ when using Nishi: Zanjitsu Gokui

Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Suì-Fēng
Attack Potency: Country level (Fought BG9), higher with Shunkō and Bankai

Speed: FTL (One of the fastest Shunpo practitioners in the Gotei 13, should be faster than most Captains which includes Mature Bankai Toshiro and even Post-Royal Guard Training Byakuya), higher with Shunkō

Durability: Country level (Took hits from BG9)

Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Marechiyo Omaeda
Speed: FTL (Is fast enough to retrieve Suì-Fēng from BG9 and move to a further area despite him focusing his attention on her and can sense people with accurate descriptions. His attack was able to hit BG9)

Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Izuru Kira
Attack Potency: Large Island level (Had his power boosted to Captain level by Mayuri upon "reviving" him. Shaz, after judging Kira's powers, stated he was a Captain level Shinigami, comparable to Hisagi))

Speed: Massively Hypersonic+ (Comparable to Hisagi)

Durability: Large Island level

Key:
"Deadman"

Retsu Unohana
Attack Potency: Country level (One of the most powerful Captains of the Gotei 13. Is the First Kenpachi [A title given to the strongest Shinigami], fought against and "killed" Zaraki over and over again)

Speed: FTL (Kept up with Zaraki during their training)

Durability: Country level (Took attacks from Zaraki)

Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Byakuya Kuchiki
Attack Potency: Country level (Should be stronger than before after training in the 17 month timeskip), higher with Senkei and Shükei: Hakuteiken | Continent level+, possibly Multi-Continent level (Capable of severely injuring Post-Auswählen Gerard, easily stopped an attack from him and did the finishing blow to his Vollständig Form although he was completely frozen), higher with Senkei and Shukei: Hakuteiken

Speed: FTL (Superior to Nanao and Omaeda) | FTL (Vastly superior to his previous self)

Durability: Country level (Took attacks from Tsukishima), higher when using Bankai as a shield | Continent level, possibly Multi-Continent level (Has taken attacks from Gerard), higher when using Bankai as a shield (Can defend against attacks from Gerard)

Key: Post-Timeskip | Post-Royal Guard Training

Renji Abarai
Attack Potency: Large Island level (Stronger than before as he trained during the 17 months timeskip, comparable to Hisagi) | Large Country level (Effortlessly blocked Mask De Masculine Star Satsujin Punch), Continent level+ with Bankai (Renji's Bankai multiplies his AP and Durability by at least 5. Effortlessly defeated a Full Powered Vollständig Mask)

Speed: Massively Hypersonic+ (Even faster than before after training during the 17 month timeskip, comparable to Hisagi) | FTL (Blocked a beam of light)

Durability: Large Island level | Large Country level (Took hits from a Full Powered Mask but was overwhelmed), Continent level+ with Bankai (Renji's Bankai multiplies his AP and Durability by at least 5. Took no damage from Mask's Star Flash: Super Nova)

Key: Post-Timeskip | Post-Royal Guard Training

Sajin Komamura
Attack Potency: Country level (Stronger than before), Large Country level with Bankai (Fought and defeated Bambietta)

Speed: FTL (Able to keep up with Bambietta)

Durability: Country level

Key:
Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Shunsui Kyōraku
Attack Potency: Large Country level (Fought against Lille and forced him to go into Vollständig), Unknow with Bankai (His Bankai is purely hax in nature)

Speed: FTL (Kept up with Lille)

Durability: Large Country level (Took multiple shots from Robert Accutrone, also tanked and survived Lille's attacks although they ignore durability)

Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Nanao Ise
Attack Potency: Unknow, possibly Town level+, Unknow with Shinken Hakkyōken (Was able to cut Lille even though he was intangible, the Shinken Hakkyōken redirect the opponents attacks back at them)

Speed: FTL (Kept up with Shunsui and was complemented by him)

Durability: Unknow, possibly Town level+

Key:
Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Shühei Hisagi
Attack Potency: Large Island level (Should be stronger than before after training with a Hollow Mask Mashiro and a Hollow Mask Kensei although he was holding back, stated in the BotRoT novel that he was a Captain level Shinigami) | Large Country level (Cut off Tokinada's arm), Varies with Bankai (Hisagi's Bankai equalizes him and his opponents Reiatsu, was able to damage a Resurrección and Gentei Kaijo released Hikone)

Speed: Massively Hypersonic+ (Trained with Mashiro and Kensei) | FTL (Blitzed Aura, fast enough to make Tokinada have to dodge his attacks)

Durability: Large Island level (Took attacks from Mashiro and Kensei) | Large Country level (Took attacks from Tokinada)

Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc | CFYOW Novel

Tōshirō Hitsugaya
Attack Potency: Large Island level (Trained during the 17 months timeskip. Should be far more powerful than pre-timeskip), Country level with Bankai | At least Large Island level (Stronger than before), Country level with Bankai (Defeated Cang Du) | Continent level+, possibly Multi-Continent level (Could freeze and cleave through a Vollständig Gerard's Hoffnung, while Kenpachi could barely nick a God Size Gerard's Hoffnung even with his Shikai and eyepatch removed)

Speed: Sub-Relativistic (Faster than his pre-timeskip self after training), Relativistic with Bankai | FTL (Able to keep up with Gerard) | FTL(Far superior to before)

Durability: Large Island level, Country level with Bankai | Country level (Survived multiple attacks from Bazz-B) | Continent level, possibly Multi-Continent level (Took attacks from Gerard)

Key: Post-Timeskip | Post-Training | Matured Bankai

Kenpachi Zaraki
Attack Potency: Country level (Defeated three Sternritter, fought against himself), higher with eyepatch off | Large Country level (Killed Unohana at the end of their training, fought against Gremmy), Continent level+ with Shikai (Kenpachi's Shikai multiplies his AP by 7, casually slashed apart a huge meteorite without releasing his eyepatch), higher with eyepatch off | Large Country level (Stronger than before, Kenpachi gets stronger every time he is near death), Continent level+ with Shikai (Fought a God Size Gerard), Multi-Continent level with Bankai (Kenpachi's Bankai multiplies his stats by 5, overwhelmed a God Size Gerard) | Multi-Continent level (Fought against a Resurrección Hikone with his Gentei Kaijo released), higher with Shikai (One-shot Ikomikidomoe who absorbed a fragment of the Soul King and was also absorbing a large amount of Reishi)

Speed: FTL (Superior to Nanao and Omaeda, kept up with himself) | FTL (Kept up with Unohana, kept up with Gremmy and at times blitzed him) | FTL (Faster than before), FTL+ with Bankai (Kenpachi's Bankai multiplies his AP and Speed by 5, blitzed a God Size Gerard) | Massively FTL (Kept up with Hikone)

Durability: Country level (Took attacks from himself) | Large Country level (Took multiple attacks from Unohana, tanked Gremmy's attacks and multiple explosions) | Continent level+ (Tanked Gerard's Hoffnung damage reflection multiple times) | Multi-Continent level (Tanked attacks from Hikone)

Key: Thousand Year Blood War | Post-Unohana Training | Post-Gremmy Fight | CFYOW Novel

Mayuri Kurotsuchi
Attack Potency: Large Country level (Able to stab straight through a weakened Kenpachi's body, defeated a Zombie Tōshirō, defeated Pernida with the help of Nemu)

Speed: FTL (Able to perform surgery on his hand, stop Pernida's nerves and reconstruct his hand before Pernida could react. He was also able to dodge Pernida's multiple Heilig Pfeil barrage with ease)

Durability: Large Country level

Key:
Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Nemu Kurotsuchi
Attack Potency: Town level+, Large Country level with power enhancement (Was able to tear straight through Pernida, surprised Mayuri with her power, finished Pernida off with Gikon Jürinjü, although she can only maintain this level of power for around 400 seconds)

Speed: FTL (Able to catch a Heilig Pfeil fired from Pernida and save Mayuri), higher with power enhancement (Blitzed Pernida)

Durability: Town level+, Large Country level with power enhancement

Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Jüshirō Ukitake
Attack Potency: Large Country level (Comparable to Shunsui)

Speed: FTL (Comparable to Shunsui)

Durability: Large Country level (Comparable to Shunsui)

Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Rukia Kuchiki
Attack Potency: Large Country level (Defeated As Nodt, stated by Byakuya to have gotten stronger, comparable to a Post-Royal Guard Training Renji), ignores conventional durability with Absolute Zero

Speed: FTL (Comparable to Renji, fought against and defeated As Nodt)

Durability: Large Country level (Physical contact with Rukia in her Bankai causes other people to begin freezing solid because of how cold she is)

Key: Post-Royal Guard Training

Arrancar

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Tier Harribel

Attack Potency: Large Country level (Fought against Hikone with the rest of the Espada and also fought Ikomikidomoe)

Speed: FTL (Kept up with the other Espada)

Durability: Large Country level (Took attacks from Hikone and Ikomikidomoe)

Key: CFYOW Novel

Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez
Attack Potency: Large Country level (Cleaved Quilge Opie who still had Ayon's absorbed powers in half with a single sword swing while in his base form, although he was weakened from fighting Ichigo and getting shot by Urahara), higher with Resurrección (Was able to pierce through Askin's body and rip his heart out, although Hollows are poisonous to Quincy due to them lacking antibodies) | Large Country level (Fought Ginjo, fought Hikone, damaged a Resurrección Luppi with a Gran Rey Cero, higher with Resurrección (Matched Luppi's 8 Gran Rey Cero with his Desgarron, fought Ikomikidomoe)

Speed: FTL (Blitzed Urahara from a considerable distance away) | FTL (Dodged a Getsuga Tenshō from Ginjo at point-blank, dodged a Gran Rey Cero from Luppi by a hair's breadth by changing its trajectory with his own cero), higher with Resurrección

Durability: Large Country level | Large Country level (Took a barrage of attacks from a Resurrección Luppi and took attacks from Ikomikidomoe)

Key: Thousand Year Blood War | CFYOW Novel

Nelliel Tu Odelschwanck
Attack Potency: Large Country level (Stronger than before, should at least be comparable to Grimmjow, was able to absorb half of Hikone Gran Rey Cero), higher with Resurrección (Fought Ikomikidomoe)

Speed: FTL (Kept up with the other Espada)

Durability: Large Country level (Took attacks from Ikomikidomoe)

Key: CFYOW Novel

Luppi Antenor
Attack Potency: Large Island level (Stronger than before after getting revived by Mayuri), Large Country level with Resurrección (Fought against Grimmjow, made him use his Resurrección, matched his Desgarron with 8 Gran Rey Cero, fought Ikomikidomoe)

Speed: FTL (Kept up with Grimmjow)

Durability: Large Island level ', Large Country level with Resurrección (Took attacks from Grimmjow)

Key: CFYOW Novel

Quincy

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Uryü Ishida

Attack Potency: Large Country level (As the successor of Yhwach and part of the high tier Sternritter he should be above the lower tier, stated by Quilge that Uryü shouldn't be weaker than himself), Unknow with the Antithesis (The Antithesis reflects damage taken and ignores conventional durability)

Speed: FTL (As the successor of Yhwach and part of the high tier Sternritter he should be above the lower tier)

Durability: Large Country level (Was able to take Jugram's attacks so that he could use his Antithesis, also survived Jugram's The Balance powers which doubled the damage dealt back to him)

Key: Thousand Year Blood War Arc

Yhwach
Attack Potency: Continent level+ (Far superior to all the Sternritter. He is the only Quincy capable of handling the power of Yamamoto's Bankai) | Planet level (Stated to be above Mimihagi and easily defeated it) | Planet level (Absorbed Mimihagi) | At least Planet level (Absorbed a weakened Soul King after absorbing Mimihagi. Lifted the Wandenreich) | Large Planet level (Grew even stronger than before after absorbing Ichigo's Quincy and Hollow powers, along with Gerard and Jugram)

Speed: At least FTL (Superior to all the Sternritter, blitzed Yamamoto and kept up with Ichibei) | Massively FTL (Intercepted Mimihagi, kept up with True Shikai Ichigo) | At least Massively FTL (Faster than before, absorbed Mimihagi) | At least Massively FTL (Far superior to his previous form) | At least Massively FTL (Superior to his previous form, faster than a True Bankai Ichigo)

Durability: Continent level+ (Tanked Ichibē's Senri Tsütenshō) | Planet level | Planet level | At least Planet level (Tanked a Gran Rey Cero-Getsuga Tenshō from True Shikai Merged Hollow Form Ichigo) | Large Planet level

Key:
Base | With The Almighty | Mimihagi Absorbed | Soul King Absorbed | Post-Power Absorption

Jugram Haschwalth
Attack Potency: Large Country level (Broke Fullbring Bankai Ichigo's Zanpakutō, fought Uryü), The Balance ignores conventional durability

Speed: FTL (Faster than a Fullbring Bankai Ichigo, kept up with Uryü, as the Grandmaster he should be above the lower tier Sternritter)

Durability: Large Country level (Was present in the vicinity of Yamamoto's Bankai, Zanka no Tachi, which would otherwise reduce a person to ash, tanked the damage he inflicted on Uryü reflected back at him)

Pernida Parnkgjas
Attack Potency: Large Country level (Adapted and evolved to Post-Gremmy fight Kenpachi's level during its fight with Mayuri), The Compulsory ignore conventional durability

Speed: FTL (Adapted and evolved to Post-Gremmy fight Kenpachi's level. As one of the Schutzstaffel it should be above the lower tier Sternritter)

Durability: Large Country level (Took a slash from Kenpachi), its adaptive and regenerative abilities make it hard to kill

Askin Nakk Le Vaar
Attack Potency: Large Country level (Stronger than the lower tier Sternritter after receiving powers from Yhwach's Auswählen. Was able to physically fight against Yoruichi), Unknow with The Deathdealing | Large Country level (Fought against a Bankai Urahara and was able to block his restructured enhanced swing with his staff), Unknow with The Deathdealing

Speed: FTL (Above the lower tier Sternritter. He is the swiftest among the elites) | FTL (Superior to his previous form)

Durability: Large Country level (Survived being slashed multiple times by Ōetsu, although, due to the effect of The Deathdealing via raising his own lethal dosage grants him a healing factor and invulnerability to the substance that he consumed. Tanked Yoruichi's Raijin Senkei and attacks from her Flash Goddess Form which was able to bypass his immunity due to her reiatsu changing 48 times per second, also tanked Yüshirō's Bakuen Musō) | Large Country level

Key:
Post-Auswähle | Quincy: Vollständig

Bambietta Basterbine
Attack Potency: Large Country level (Strong enough to steal Sajin's Bankai, should be superior to the rest of the female Sternritter) | Large Country level (More powerful than base), The Explode ignores conventional durability

Speed: FTL (Comparable to the rest of the female Sternritter) | FTL (Superior to before)

Durability: Large Country level | Large Country level (Survived a hit from Sajin's Kokujō Tengen Myō'ō Dangai Jōe, which hit her dead on with such power that it forced her explosions back onto her body)

Key: Base | Quincy: Vollständig

As Nodt
Attack Potency: Country level (Stronger than Pre-Royal Guard Training Byakuya. Could steal Byakuya's Bankai. Stated by Yhwach that you needed to be sufficiently powerful enough to control the stolen Bankai) | Country level (Stronger than before)

Speed: FTL (Kept up with Byakuya) | FTL (Superior to base)

Durability: Country level (Took attacks from Byakuya) | Country level

Key:
Base | Quincy: Vollständig

Liltotto Lamperd
Attack Potency: Large Country level (Stronger than Candice and Meninas) | Large Country level (Stronger than before) | Large Country level (Ate half of Hikone's Gran Rey Cero, fought Ikomikidomoe)

Speed: FTL (Comparable to the rest of the female Sternritter) | FTL (Faster than before. Kept up with the other Sternritter. Dodged Yhwach's Auswähle while also grabbing Giselle to safety) | FTL

Durability:
Large Country level (Withstood being thrown into buildings by a non-serious Ichigo, took a Vollständig Bazz-B's Burner Finger 1, stated by her that he can't stop them with a single Burner Finger, also took a punch from Meninas using the The Power) | Large Country level (Stronger than base) | Large Country level (Took a blow from Hikone)

Key: Base | Quincy: Vollständig | CFYOW Novel

Bazz-B
Attack Potency: Country level (His flames are powerful enough to offset those generated by Captain-Commander Yamamoto's Ryüjin Jakka) | Continent level+ (Fought against Post-Royal Guard Training Rukia and Renji in his Bankai form off-screen)

Speed: FTL (Faster than Tōshirō) | FTL (Faster than before. Kept up with the other Sternritter)

Durability: Country level (Survived an attack from Yamamoto) | Continent level+ (Fought against Post-Royal Guard Training Rukia and Renji in his Bankai form off-screen)

Key: Base | Quincy: Vollständig

Cang Du
Attack Potency: Country level (Is powerful enough to steal and control Tōshirō's Bankai with the Medallion [stated by Yhwach that you needed to be sufficiently powerful enough to control the stolen Bankai] and has trained with it)

Speed: FTL (Fought Tōshirō)

Durability: Country level (Survived an attack from Bankai Tōshirō), Large Country level with The Iron (Tanked an attack from Jugram)

Quilge Opie
Attack Potency: Country level (Defeated Harribel's three Fracción with relative ease whose combined powers could create an Ayon that can overwhelm his Vollständig) | Country level (Able to fight and overwhelm Fullbring Shikai Ichigo) | Large Country level (Grew stronger after absorbing Ayon who was previously able to overwhelm his Vollständig, was able to damage Urahara)

Speed: FTL (Shouldn't be that much slower than his Vollständig state) | FTL (Kept up with Fullbring Shikai Ichigo) | FTL (Can somewhat keep up with Ichigo in Fullbring Bankai for a bit)

Durability: Country level (Took his own Heilig Pfeil being thrown back by Ichigo) | Country level (Took a point-blank Getsuga Tenshō to the neck from a Fullbring Shikai Ichigo without showing any signs of damage, also withstood multiple blows from Ayon) | Large Country level (Was able to tank multiple attacks from a Fullbring Bankai Ichigo)

Key: Base | Quincy: Vollständig | Post-Ayon Absorption

BG9
Attack Potency: Country level (Strong enough to steal Suì-Fēng's bankai. Fought on par with her after her training and was able to damage her), higher with Suì-Fēng's Bankai

Speed: FTL (Able to catch Suì-Fēng by surprise and kept up with her during their fight)

Durability: Country level (Tanked a Mukyü Shunkō enhanced punch from Suì-Fēng, also survived her Bankai)

PePe Waccabrada
Attack Potency: Large Island level (Should be comparable to Captain level Shinigami such as Hisagi, Renji and Izuru, [stated by Akon that the Sternritter in the first invasion of Seireitei had comparable to or greater power than a Captain level Shinigami. Pepe being one of them) | Large Island level (Stronger than before but was still easily defeated by a base Zombie Kensei, The Love ignores conventional durability)

Speed: Massively Hypersonic+ | Massively Hypersonic+

Durability:
Large Island level | Small Country level (Took a beating from a base Zombie Kensei)

Key: Base | Quincy: Vollständig

Gerard Valkyrie
Attack Potency: Large Country level (Stronger than the lower tier Sternritter after receiving powers from Yhwach's Auswählen) | Continent level+ (Traded blows with Shikai Kenpachi who had his eyepatch off and injured him) | Continent level+, possibly Multi-Continent level (Far stronger than before, was able to cut off Bankai Kenpachi's arm, however he was damaged from his own power overwhelming him) | At least Continent level+, possibly Multi-Continent level (Was stated by Tōshirō that his former form didn't even hold a candle to this one)

Speed: FTL (Above the lower tier Sternritter. Fought against Post-Royal Guard Training Renji) | FTL (Despite being very huge in size, he could still keep up with Kenpachi, Tōshirō, and Byakuya and blocked attacks from them) | FTL (Faster than before, can keep up with a Matured Tōshirō) | FTL (Should be faster than before)

Durability: Large Country level | Continent level+ | Continent level+, possibly Multi-Continent level | At least Continent level+, possibly Multi-Continent level

Key:
Post-Auswähle | God Size | Quincy: Vollständig | Vollständig Second Form

Meninas McAllo
Attack Potency: Large Country level (Was able to easily punch a weakened Kenpachi into the ground with tremendous force, was stated in the CFYOW Novel that her strength was on par with Kenpachi, able to bruise Liltotto but was taken out by her) | Large Country level (Stronger than before) | Large Country level (Fought Hikone and Ikomikidomoe)

Speed: FTL (Comparable to the female Sternritter) | FTL (Faster than base. Kept up with the other Sternritter) | FTL

Durability:
Large Country level (Withstood being thrown into buildings by a non-serious Ichigo, took a Vollständig Bazz-B's Burner Finger 1, also stated by Liltotto that he can't stop them with a single Burner Finger) | Large Country level | Large Country level (Tanked the damages inflicted by Hikone)

Key: Base | Quincy: Vollständig | CFYOW Novel

Mask De Masculine
Attack Potency: Large Island level (Should at least be at this level [stated by Akon that the Sternritter in the first invasion of Seireitei had comparable to or greater power than a Captain level Shinigami. Mask being one of them]. Stronger than a Pre-Royal Guard Training Renji and Hisagi) | Country level (After getting stronger from James' power-up he quickly defeated Rojuro and Kensei who used Bankai), Large Country level with Star Satsujin Punch (This Star punch is 10 times more powerful) | Large Country level (Received many cheers and transformed, pressured Post-Royal Guard Training Renji and sent him flying with his attacks, although he didn't inflict much damage to him)

Speed: Massively Hypersonic+ (Faster than Renji and Hisagi) | Sub-Relativistic (Faster than Rojuro and Kensei), Speed of Light attack speed with Star Flash (Can fire a beam of light from his star shaped mask) | FTL (After powering up a second time, Mask proceeded to pressure Post-Royal Guard Training Renji with a barrage of attacks)

Durability: Country level (Withstood a severe beating from a Bankai Kensei) | Country level (Did not even faze after crushing his own eardrums to negate Rojuro's Bankai effects, and tanked hit's from Kensei's Bankai) | Large Country level (Took an attack from Renji, albeit was nearly split in half)

Key: Base | Partial Cheers | Full Power

Candic
 
I'll just start off with a basic issue, because I do still believe that this scaling chain contains several flaws and I want to make an attempt at going through them one at a time:

Sui-Feng:

> Speed: FTL (One of the fastest Shunpo practitioners in the Gotei 13, should be faster than most Captains which includes Mature Bankai Toshiro and even Post-Royal Guard Training Byakuya), higher with Shunkō

This justification is baseless. There is no link between her and Mature Bankai Toshiro or Post-Royal Guard Training Byakuya.
 
It is a more fair assumption if anything, don't get me wrong I think Soi Fon is bae but she really didn't do enough feats to put her levels comparable to Byakuya or Adult Toshiro. Maybe in the epilogue she should because she was the only person helping Byakuya but that could have just been her being well..Her
 
That's not an outlier... An outlier would be like if Goku was MFTL+ and was being blitzed by Hypersonic characters. That's Renji training extensively, getting stronger and having a valid feat to justify it. I do admire how all these "consistency" or "outlier" arguments pop up in Bleach threads but they're never seen anywhere else, if you're not going to be impartial, at least try not to make it obvious.
 
@Purgy; I don't support Omimi's line of reasoning, but arguments about consistency and outliers do occur frequently for several verses.
 
Damage3245 said:
@Purgy; I don't support Omimi's line of reasoning, but arguments about consistency and outliers do occur frequently for several verses.
Really? Because I've legitimately never seen one, and there are a dozen threads where I can see the outlier argument being used to reject a revision. I really don't want to derail this thread too much though so if you want I'll just stop bringing it up, I can't help but make comparisons though when I feel people aren't being fair and giving Bleach the same treatment other verses get.
 
He did trained with the top tier of the verse and could fodderrized an opponent that one shoted him before that training .

I don't see much problem here .
 
@Purgy; in general I don't think bringing up other verses to complain about unfair treatement is a good way of arguing. I've been on the site for years and I've seen major upgrades and downgrades for several important verses. Literally everyone complains about unfair treatement at some point or another.

But anyway, I'd rather just focus on these revisions for now.
 
Damage3245 said:
@Purgy; in general I don't think bringing up other verses to complain about unfair treatement is a good way of arguing. I've been on the site for years and I've seen major upgrades and downgrades for several important verses. Literally everyone complains about unfair treatement at some point or another.
But anyway, I'd rather just focus on these revisions for now.
You make it seem like I'm just complaining because I feel like it or something. Everything I said is from my experience and time here, I don't recall ever seeing an argument like that used in a revision thread, that isn't to say those arguments have never been made, I'm just saying they can't exactly be frequent arguments if I've never seen any, and I read through a lot of revision threads.

Regardless, I agree that this discussion would go nowhere so it's best to just forget about it.
 
The fact that RG training makes people hundreds of times stronger, the jump to FTL isn't an issue imo.

Edit: The fact that it is the best training in the setting and this is the feat the guy immediately pulls out as a result hardly makes it an outlier as everyone who scales to it is already bullying relativistic people or exist in a vacuum that only links back to Renji.
 
@Purgy; apologies, didn't mean to imply it was just your feelings.
 
AstralKing7 said:
Hundreds of times stronger literally sounds like an hyperbole
Renji go to large island to large country , wich more than 100x . His dura and speed also goes above 100x after his D0 training .

So the D0 training making you 100x stronger isn't an hyperbole . Not for renji or ichigo at least .
 
Damage3245 said:
I'll just start off with a basic issue, because I do still believe that this scaling chain contains several flaws and I want to make an attempt at going through them one at a time:
Sui-Feng:

> Speed: FTL (One of the fastest Shunpo practitioners in the Gotei 13, should be faster than most Captains which includes Mature Bankai Toshiro and even Post-Royal Guard Training Byakuya), higher with Shunkō

This justification is baseless. There is no link between her and Mature Bankai Toshiro or Post-Royal Guard Training Byakuya.
Yes, I agree this is strange, she could climb to Nemu or even Rukia or Renji, but I don't know.
 
In chapter 629 Soifon is keeping up with Renji and Byakuya and this was after Soifon got her Bankai stolen and trained. In chapter 686 after the 10 year time skip Byakuya runs to confront Yhwach's power after talking with a random Shinigami and Soifon catches up to Byakuya.
 
Why are people even able to post images that big lol? Took up my entire screen.
 
I don't think Soi-Fon should scale to Mature Bankai Toshiro and Post Royal Guard Byakuya's full speed. The trio of Byakuya Kenpachi and Toshiro, aka the fan favorites, have been shown to be on another level from most other captains after their respective boosts

Also, do quincy Vollstandig's have accepted multipliers too?
 
Jo-Smooth said:
I don't think Soi-Fon should scale to Mature Bankai Toshiro and Post Royal Guard Byakuya's full speed. The trio of Byakuya Kenpachi and Toshiro, aka the fan favorites, have been shown to be on another level from most other captains after their respective boosts
Also, do quincy Vollstandig's have accepted multipliers too?
Yes the accepted is x5
 
Then Gerard, Matured Bankai Toshiro and Bankai Byakuya should scale to Bankai Kenpachi since Shikai Kenpachi without the eyepatch was equal to or somewhat weaker than God Gerard, then Kenpachi went Bankai and stomped Gerard, then Gerard got an unknown Miracle amp + the Vollstandig 5x amp. That's the version Toshiro and Byakuya fought

So Definite Multi Continent and FTL+ for Gerard, Toshiro and Byakuya if Vollstandig is 5x and God Size Gerard is equal to or stronger than Shikai Kenpachi
 
Soifon scales in speed to Byakuya and Renji and the same for Nanao keeping up with Shunsui and the others.

Soifon trained in chapter 529 after her bankai was stolen and became stronger.

In chapter 629 everyone is keeping up in speed with each other as they are in a hurry to the enemy base.

In chapter 686 after the ten year time skip Soifon is still able to catch up to Byakuya after the fodder shinigami informed Byakuya but the fodder Shinigami didn't made it to the location.
 
@AppleLord; the 10-year timeskip feat is irrelevant.

As for everyone running to Yhwach's castle, you seriously can't be expecting to use that to say that every character is FTL.

They're just travelling as a group with no indication of high speed at all; remember if they were moving at FTL speeds then they'd reach their destination in a thousandth of a second.

Soifon does not scale to either Byakuya or Renji after their Royal Guard training.
 
Jo-Smooth said:
Then Gerard, Matured Bankai Toshiro and Bankai Byakuya should scale to Bankai Kenpachi since Shikai Kenpachi without the eyepatch was equal to or somewhat weaker than God Gerard, then Kenpachi went Bankai and stomped Gerard, then Gerard got an unknown Miracle amp + the Vollstandig 5x amp. That's the version Toshiro and Byakuya fought

So Definite Multi Continent and FTL+ for Gerard, Toshiro and Byakuya if Vollstandig is 5x and God Size Gerard is equal to or stronger than Shikai Kenpachi
The light novel states the Gremmy was the second strongest sternrritter and only one other Quincy defeated him in battle before, Base Yhwach. That puts Base Yhwach above every single Quincy including God Gerard since this was stated after SK Yhwach was defeated and sealed.
 
@AppleLord; how do you know that they were referring solely to AP when they described Gremmy as the second strongest Sternritter? Gremmy had a borderline reality warping ability. That would definitely be a good qualifier by itself to be considered the second strongest Sternritter.
 
Damage3245 said:
@AppleLord; the 10-year timeskip feat is irrelevant.
As for everyone running to Yhwach's castle, you seriously can't be expecting to use that to say that every character is FTL.

They're just travelling as a group with no indication of high speed at all; remember if they were moving at FTL speeds then they'd reach their destination in a thousandth of a second.

Soifon does not scale to either Byakuya or Renji after their Royal Guard training.
Are you going to dismiss every single feat brought up? Just curious.

Every single character there scales to FTL before you even brought the cycle scaling.

"They're just travelling as a group with no indication of high speed at all; remember if they were moving at FTL speeds then they'd reach their destination in a thousandth of a second."

This is your interpretation.

Renji moved at FTL to reach Mask's Beam of Light and he didn't appear in a thousandth of a sec and neither have all characters in fiction because fiction doesn't always follow logic especially dragon ball.
 
Damage3245 said:
@AppleLord; how do you know that they were referring solely to AP when they described Gremmy as the second strongest Sternritter? Gremmy had a borderline reality warping ability. That would definitely be a good qualifier by itself to be considered the second strongest Sternritter.
It was stated that only Yhwach (before he had Almighty) could defeated him in battle. It was also stated in the manga by Askin that Yhwach released Gremmy and in the light novel we see Greemy flashback getting unsealed. That means Yhwach defeated him and sealed him away. Base Yhwach doesn't have any hax that I know that could take on Gremmy besides pure AP.
 
> Are you going to dismiss every single feat brought up? Just curious.

Only the invalid ones.

> Every single character there scales to FTL before you even brought the cycle scaling.

No, they don't.

> Renji moved at FTL to reach Mask's Beam of Light and he didn't appear in a thousandth of a sec and neither have all characters in fiction because fiction doesn't always follow logic especially dragon ball.

If Super Saiyan Goku and Krillin are flying side by side for a while, we're not going to automatically scale Krillin to Super Saiyan Goku's maximum speed unless we have reason to believe it.

As for Renji, in order to be FTL he had to have moved a certain distance in a lot less than a thousandth of a second which is the only reason he has that result.

If we look at him in a different stiuation though, and see that he is travelling a distance and not arriving there in the same immensely short timeframe, then he therefore is not travelling at that speed all of the time. Therefore we can't say that literally every character running alongside him on that panel is also capable of FTL speeds.

> It was stated that only Yhwach (before he had Almighty) could defeated him in battle.

Have you got a source?
 
Damage3245 said:
Why can't you used the 10 year time skip feat to give Soifon FTL speed for catching up to Byakuya since that's a feat that you deem unimportant?

I have a source. Give me a sec.

EDI: Only Yhwach could defeat Gremmy.

"…Have you ever heard the name… Gremmy Thoumeaux?"

Gremmy Thoumeaux.

The name of a boy who is reputed to be the strongest Sternritter, in fact, it was said that in all likelihood, no one could hope to defeat him outside of Yhwach.

That he is described as a boy, is purely because the body he had imagined for himself was that of a young boy, in actuality, both sex and age were unknown.

His true form is only a brain floating within a small container; a Quincy who 'imagined' (created) his very own body by using the power of the Schrift V —— "The Visionary" given to him by Yhwach.

Making one's imagination transform into reality as it stands, is evidently a phenomenon close to the power of a god, in the life or death struggle against Zaraki Kenpachi, he conjured everything from a huge meteorite within Seireitei to the vacuum of outer space.

In the end, he imagined power that could overcome Zaraki Kenpachi and made it his own, but because he couldn't completely imagine a body that was able to withstand that power, it resulted in his self-destruction, he awakened from his dreams, and his brain ceased all function.

Lil caught sight of the moment Gremmy disintegrated with her own eyes, she was also able to confirm that his Reiatsu had come to a complete stop.

She had no idea what happened to the brain container thereafter, nor did she have any particular intention to go searching for its whereabouts.

However, it was a separate matter entirely if one could sense Gremmy's Reiatsu coming from the Shinigami before her.

Perhaps by some chance this Shinigami figure is a mere mimicry, and in truth, something formed after the living Gremmy had 'imagined' it, Lil had surmised as much before posing her question."

Source.

Gremmy flashback of been sealed and unsealed by Yhwach.

"Sometime in the past; within the Wandenreich HQ, Silbern:-"

"While the war with the Shinigami was in full swing, something else was going on within Silbern. There had previously been a cage; heavily sealed by a barrier set up by Yhwach. Now, however, the seal had been unraveled and the existence that should have been locked up was revealed. The body of Gremmy Thomeaux was standing in the passageway. Nobody approached him, nobody even dared to look at him; as if fearful that just by looking into his eyes, they would get killed. But one lone shadow moved closer to Gremmy with unfaltering steps."

Source.

In the manga Askin states that Gremmy should had stay locked up.
 
@AppleLord; Soifon doesn't have a key for after the timeskip.
 
What about this for sui feng

> Speed: FTL (One of the fastest Shunpo practitioners in the Gotei 13, should be faster than most Captains which includes unohana and even komamura), higher with Shunkō
 
@Sekkonds; where is the statement that she is faster than Unohana and Komamura in the Thousand Year Blood War Arc?
 
Damage3245 said:
@AppleLord; Soifon doesn't have a key for after the timeskip.
Shouldn't the 10 year time skip key be the same as her last key for the war?

After the whole war with Yhwach a couple of months later Tokinada's rebellion (light novel) happened, and after that there were 10 years of peace. Soifon couldn't had gotten stronger or faster if there were peace for 10 years.
 
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