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Antasma VS Nightmare (Grace)
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EMagoIorSouI
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Nightmare has better AP, but Antasma contains better hax. For some reason, he's missing sealing and power null on his profile.
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Well if Nightmare gets hit by any of Antasma's attacks, then he falls alseep due to Antasma's sleep manipulation working on any of his attacks.
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When someone falls asleep, he proceeds to chase you down inside a dream...within a dream. And kill you.
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If he still has his AP and powers there then he can fight Antasma and make that irrelevant. If that's not the case then I would also think that Nightmare could still fight him back or wake up due to his own Dream Manipulation, he made everyone on Dreamland unable to dream. Also reading his profile again projectiles bounce off his cape, so he seems to have quite the advantage.
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The Antasma inside the dream isn't the real Antasma. It's basically just dream manipulation. Othewise Mario wouldn't be running away from Antasma when he's able to fight him prior to sleeping. It isn't just projectiles, this works on physical attacks as well.
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Making some quick research Nightmare is absolutely a real nightmare, but he's touchable so that doesn't matter. ("The Dream Spring(old name)/Fountain of Dreams is a magical well that is a reservoir for all the dreams of the inhabitants of Dream Land. Dreams also flow out of the Dream Spring and envelop Dream Land, granting all sleeping beings enjoyable dreams.", "Bad Dreams had invaded Dream Land! A Nightmare came to the Dream Spring and tried to cause pain to the people!", "This ball of nightmares came from the Fountain of Dreams, taking nightmares to all of Dream Land. King Dedede sealed it away by shattering the Star Rod, but it was revived when the Star Rod was restored by Kirby. " [that last one is non-canon]. Dedede sealed Nightmare not by using Sealing, but by breaking an item that powers other item to let people dream, no dreams=no Nightmare, when the item was fixed Nightmare manifested.)
Having some attacks bounce off is a notable advantage if this was who hits first match, which it likely isn't.
Having some attacks bounce off is a notable advantage if this was who hits first match, which it likely isn't.
EMagoIorSouI
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Depends on who hits first, I suppose. Antasma is pretty slow to attack. He usually begins by summoning loads of Antasmunchies, and consuming them to power up. Nightmare, however, is quicker to attack. One hit from Nightmare and Antasma is done for. Does he have any way to defend himself from Nightmare as he powers up? His forcefield might do good but considering the large AP gap, Nightmare can shatter that with ease.
Given the odds, for now, I vote Nightmare.
Given the odds, for now, I vote Nightmare.
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I'll tap in.
Nightmare FRA.
Nightmare FRA.
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Antasma FRA
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What reasons do you have that Antasma will beat Nightmare?NotAMarioFan(lol) said:
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Eternal nightmare, sleep manipulation, force field creation etc. And if it's just one shot antasma can still incap. Also what is nightmares AP
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- "Eternal nightmare, sleep manipulation": As said before, Nightmare made everyone in Dream Land lose his ability to dream, as long as he can act in a dream there is no reason he couldn't do the same to himself.
- "force field creation": He can have 10 forcefields, what about them?
- "etc.": Please do tell us what yu mean by it.
- "And if it's just one shot antasma can still incap.": All the arguments above show how less likely this is, something tells me you didn't read them.
- Nightmares AP's: Here's the Scaling Chain, his last appearance was on Mass Attack.
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If he doesnt have resistance to sleep manipulation he can get slept certain way in antasma dream world. Not to mention he can spam his bats and teleport which will mostly likely land a hit
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Nightmare FRA
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Nightmare can also spam his energy attacks and he teleports all the time. For the first thing you said that's like saying that someone with Poison Manip would use that to defeat someone with that can use anti-poison antidotes at will, all because the latter doesn't have Resistance to Poison. I consider that something basic, and think that you vote prematurely and claim things as true without the information you need to do so, which is bad.NotAMarioFan(lol) said:
Also I guess I was right on that "etc" being hollow.
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I've said my reason why...they both have wincons it all comes to who hits who first. But if it's just nightmare with slighty higher AP and antasma with better hax itll be inconclusive
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Nightmare FRA. Off topic but why does Nightmare have reality warping?
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Nightmare fra
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Grace.
