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Sorry for the wait, regardless, what is Sacred Eclipse's first move?

Diablo has passive mind, empathic, madness, fear, death, and radiation hax (in this key) of about 5 people. Also, who has the AP advantange?
 
SE's first move would be her passives: stamina drain, mind, fear, morality, illusion and empathic on the scale of around 12,000 people. SE is above 61,5 kilotons on this key.
 
Isnt Diablo's Resistance to Mind manip scale to Rimuru? On scale of 350.000 people, also Diablo is a special A rank, he should be able to Resist Demon Lord passives
 
GLHF22 said:
Isnt Diablo's Resistance to Mind manip scale to Rimuru? On scale of 350.000 people, also Diablo is a special A rank, he should be able to Resist Demon Lord passives
Ionliosite said:
He doesn't have any resistance to that mind hax on his profile, so idk.
Yeah, it should be added; the conclusion from a past thread was to scaled Hinata's mind and soul resistance from her Unique Skill to other Unique Skills and Ultimate Skills users from this thread: Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Mind Manipulation & Resistance

The additions are still valid to add; I will probably start adding the missing resistances later.
 
Huh, so Diablo resists the mindhax now. I guess that also means he resists the fear, empathic, illusions and morality. I think passive stamina drain would still work tho.
 
Bobjoemike said:
Elizhaa said:
isn't that in his high 4-C key? I thought we were using his 7-C key
Yeah, my bad, you are right. I think he has the same feat in his 7-C key in the tournament arc; I just need to found it.
 
Nevermind, Diablo doesn't have energy drain in his 7-C key, from what I checked.
 
she also doesn't have resistance to Mind Manipulation either which is a requirement to resist paradise time:: His ability can be overcome if his opponent has strong mental strength nor does she has resistance to existence erasure which is End Of World
 
Bobjoemike said:
she also doesn't have resistance to Mind Manipulation either which is a requirement to resist paradise time:: His ability can be overcome if his opponent has strong mental strength nor does she has resistance to existence erasure which is End Of World
>Sacred Eclipse

>No resistances to mindhax

I think you've misread something there on the profile my dude
 
Karion does have resistance to Mind Hax; Diablo stated his will was too strong for (mind hax) which should be from Temptation to work. Dang, the justification is there on the profile; Karion should have mind hax resistance on his profile a while ago.

Karion should also get soul manipulation/mind manipulation from the same Hinata's scaling.
 
Oblivion Of The Endless said:
Bobjoemike said:
she also doesn't have resistance to Mind Manipulation either which is a requirement to resist paradise time:: His ability can be overcome if his opponent has strong mental strength nor does she has resistance to existence erasure which is End Of World
>Sacred Eclipse
>No resistances to mindhax

I think you've misread something there on the profile my dude
whoops, i was looking at her low 7-C key mistaking it for her 7-C key, my bad. So End Of World then
 
Sacred Eclipse doesn't even have a regular mind, her mind is a computer on a totally different location, so her resistance to mind hax is kinda redundant tbh. Exactly how does End of the World work?
 
Ionliosite said:
Sacred Eclipse doesn't even have a regular mind, her mind is a computer on a totally different location, so her resistance to mind hax is kinda redundant tbh. Exactly how does End of the World work?
It is basically Subjective Reality that has EE and Negation, from the page.
 
Wouldn't that just mean Sacred Eclipse dies and then Avalon creates a new Sacred Eclipse? (That's how her Type 4 and 8 work).
 
Victory Conditions: Death of the opponent, removing the opponent from the battlefield for at least one week (BFR), knocking the opponent out for at least one hour, or incapacitating the opponent by putting him in a state in which he can not harm the other fighter(s) for over a day, are to be assumed as victory conditions.

As long as Avalon is on, she can resurrect herself around 12 hours after her death

well shit, no End of the World then unless we somehow accept killing=knocking someone out and i don't really see Diablo not going for the kill unless he is order not to by rimuru
 
And she becomes stronger every time she revives. In fact, her keys are literally for every time she revives across the series, so you can tell the difference from each revival.
 
although i think he would stop trying to kill her and try something else after the first kill when he realised that his opponent can revived herself and has gotten stronger after the revival
 
GLHF22 said:
What's Avalon?
A Ruin, a technology control headquartet of the Holy Arcadia Empire created by the Xfer. It now lows underground, below an apparently destroyed city on the Marcafal Kingdom.
 
GLHF22 said:
Can she revives even after her mind body and soul erased?
Given that her mind is a computer on Avalon, and she doesn't actually revive as much as Avalon just creates a new body for her, I'll say yes.
 
Ionliosite said:
GLHF22 said:
Can she revives even after her mind body and soul erased?
Given that her mind is a computer on Avalon, and she doesn't actually revive as much as Avalon just creates a new body for her, I'll say yes.
so it is the same type of stand revival as Veldora
 
That's technically true, but how could Diablo interact with the space where Sacred Eclipse is recreated? It's an illusory space that can only be reached by the Arcadia family, and only someone with Arcadia blood can turn off the revival process. Also, the time of her revival speed ups the more it happens; this quote is talking about her first key:

To the end, it was Avalon that made Sacred Eclipse appeared.
When that human shaped Ragnarok was killed, it would resurrect along with the time's passing, and before long the period until its revival would speed up.
But that leads us to another question, how would Diablo know about Avalon?
 
Demons have spatial motion which allows them to move through space, heck Demons are abstract entity who deosnt need Body to life, Underworld is also a metaphysical place, Diablo can Freely enter and exit it without problem.

Diablo can anlyze His opponent ability, he should be able to see some connection she has with Avalon.
 
That still isn't having Arcadia blood

He still shouldn't know where Avalon even is, where would he search to begin with? And why would he search it?
 
He can, because he will know everything about SE the moments battle start unless SE Resist information manipulation.
 
I mean, if he knows that Avalon exists, how will he track Avalon? It's not it's going to say where Avalon is.
 
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