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Renaming a few SMT pages

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So, based on a thread that was to rename the Persona 5 Protagonist to Joker was rejected due to Ren Amamiya being his official name, I noticed there were a couple more pages that we could rename using that logic:

Before you say "but even the pages you are citing don't use that name for the title", neither do Makoto Yuki (https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Protagonist_(Persona_3) ) nor Ren Amamiya (https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Protagonist_(Persona_5) ) due to these 2 having more than one official name. So, what do you think?
 
I mentioned here that I'm perfectly fine with these changes personally.
 
I don't know about using manga names as those aren't canon. Calling him Abel is a bit of a spoiler though and I guess it's better than just "Protagonist".
 
Generally, pages with spoilers are fine on the wiki unless it's for really recent games. In which case, there might be a spoiler warning at the beginning of the profile. Spoilers are bound to come up eventually with profiles either way.
 
DarkGrath said:
Generally, pages with spoilers are fine on the wiki unless it's for really recent games. In which case, there might be a spoiler warning at the beginning of the profile. Spoilers are bound to come up eventually with profiles either way.
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I agree. Calling everyone is a protagonist is a bore, and it's inconsistent when there are protags that are listed as other names like Demifiend, Nanashi, and Flynn.

As for the Abel vs Kazuya thing, I am leaning more towards Yvel's side and wanting to go with Abel. Abel will be thematically consistent with characters that have been granted canonically important titles in the cosmology like Demifiend.

I think Kazuya should be reserved for best boi, which is the neutral hero from SMT 1.
 
The Divine Phoenix said:
Shining One can stay as is imo. Unless you also want to rename Anguished One to Alcor/Al Saiduq. Neutral Hero should be renamed though.
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Personally, I don't mind Shining One's profile being renamed; I wouldn't mind Anguished One's profile being rename to Alcor or Al Saiduq either.

I do agree that Neutral Hero's profile should be rename, too.
 
Still feel like Shining One and Anguished One work fine though, since they're actual titles they get and Hibiki isn't a canon name. Unlike the others they don't currently have generic names like "Protagonist" either.
 
Is Anguished One actually what the other characters refer to him as? I don't remember them doing so outside of his introduction (and a joke dialogue option). Don't they usually call him something like "that guy"?

Although Al Saiduq is the name he gave himself, Alcor is his more official name throughout the game, it's just being kept a secret, and is used in 4/5 routes compared to Al Saiduq's 1/5.

For Shining One, I'd prefer to stick as is, since it's his only name in the game (alternatively "Leader" is an optio). To be fair it is also more of a nickname than a title, but using a name with no other backing than the non canon anime adaptation doesn't seem good.
 
I don't mind characters sticking with titles instead of names (I even have a page I made where I did that, so I'm in no position to complain) but I do still agree that the "Protagonist" profiles should be renamed if possible.
 
If there is nothing left to do, I think we should have the thread closed soon.
 
Yes, the arguments as to why Shining One should be kept as it is are good, so I think this can be closed.
 
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