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Undyne vs Lancer: Spear Fight!!!

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The Captain of the Royal Guard

vs

The Heroic Spirit of Ireland

Rules:

Speed equalized. Base Undyne only.

Win by death, K.O, or when the other can't fight anymore/surrender. Undyne is bloodlusted whereas Lancer is in-character. Random encounter.

(We can change the rules at any time to make the fight more fair)

The match takes place in the Fuyuki Central Park:
Park


Situation:

Lancer goes and investigates around Fuyuki after noticing a 'strong presence'. There, he finds Undyne.

After a lot of misunderstandings, their fight starts.

Who will win?!? The Heroine That NEVER Gives Up or The Blue Spearman of the Wind?!?

Lancer (Fate/Stay Night)
C├║ Chulain

The wind is howling undyne fanart by mothmandraws-d9g52ns
Undyne
 
Probably Lancer.

Protection from Arrows lets him cope with Undyne's projectiles, even if he is stuck in place, and Gae Bolg will likely kill her. If it doesn't the first time, it should still badly injure her, and Lancer can just use it again. And again.

Also, Magic Resistance will lower the effectiveness of Undyne's attacks to some degree, since they are magical in nature, I believe.
 
I'd say Lancer more than Undyne.

Besides his PfA ability that Prom said, Lancer is also higher in stats (being at least City level in AP and....just City level in Dura). And same as the Gae Blog thing. Even if by some chance that Undyne doesn't die from the first blow (which i kind of doubt given the stat difference), she's going to be pretty messed up by it, which leaves Lancer to either attacking her with another Gae Blog attack or just using normal blows to finish her off.
 
Alright, 2 - 0 in favor of the Heroic Spirit.
 
I feel like Undyne might take this if bloodlusted.

If Lancer is inflicted with Green Mode, he will be forced to stand his ground against Undyne's onslaught of projectiles, which he would be more inclined to deflect them as while they are magic, they do strike the soul, and while it wouldn't be hard for Lancer to deflect most of her projectiles, the ones that change direction might be troublesome.

If Lancer should have to focus on blocking projectiles, he wouldn't be able to go on the offense without putting himself at risk.
 
What about his magic resistance tho, Talon? I get that it's not exactly high due to being a C rank in that regard but it's not low enough so it should at least null down some of the magic affect of Undyne's attacks. Then again, there is the effects of it hitting the soul and that of changing directions....hmm...
 
CrossverseCrisis said:
What about his magic resistance tho, Talon? I get that it's not exactly high due to being a C rank in that regard but it's not low enough so it should at least null down some of the magic affect of Undyne's attacks. Then again, there is the effects of it hitting the soul and that of changing directions....hmm...
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He may be resistant to magic, but he hasn't been shown to resist soul affecting attributes, which is what all Undertale monsters utilize, so it will still be harmful to him, which doesn't help with the fact that Undyne has been shown to spam these projectiles in multiple directions.
 
1 - 2 in favor of the Heroic Spirit of the lance.
 
I'm also sticking with Lancer due to the aforementioned Protection from Arrows skill along with the sheer hax of his Gae Bolg. Not to mention the fact that Undyne is too chivalrous to simply back up and chuck spears, allowing Lancer to eventually get it off.

I'd also like to bring up that Lancer is an expert monster hunter and automatically gains bonuses when facing them in combat.
 
Undyne is bloodlusted and will do anything to win in this situation, but still, 1 - 3.
 
Reppuzan said:
I'm also sticking with Lancer due to the aforementioned Protection from Arrows skill along with the sheer hax of his Gae Bolg. Not to mention the fact that Undyne is too chivalrous to simply back up and chuck spears, allowing Lancer to eventually get it off.

I'd also like to bring up that Lancer is an expert monster hunter and automatically gains bonuses when facing them in combat.
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The problem with there is that Undyne is bloodlusted in this scenario, she's not going to act chivalrous and will likely go full danmaku. Protection from Arrows provides no real resistance, it just allow him to easily predict their trajectory, helping him deflect projectiles. This will be ineffective as Undyne has been known to use spears that reverse direction before contact, which will likely throw Lancer off.
 
Talonmask said:
This will be ineffective as Undyne has been known to use spears that reverse direction before contact, which will likely throw Lancer off.
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Once or twice, yeah, but Undyne's not oneshotting him. She has to chip him out, very slowly, due to Lancer's higher durability. And it'll just be harder with Lancer because of Battle Continuation. Protection from Arrows will still help, and, as mentioned before, Lancer gets bonuses as a monster hunter.
 
I'm not sure how it would be just chipping, as Lancer doesn't have soul damage resistance but just magic resistance.

Sure, Lancer's Battle Continuation will prove to be troublesome, but another issue is Undyne's immense stamina.

Yes, Protection of Arrows will help, but I don't think there's a definable difference between the spears that change direction and the ones that don't, predicting every single one to prevent himself from getting hit would be difficult.

What bonuses does he get exactly? I don't think it's really covered much on his page.
 
Pretty sure Undyne's weapons are less effective against other magical beings, which Lancer is.

That doesn't matter when Lancer can use piercing Gae Bolg to oneshot her. Or throwing Gae Bolg to oneshot her. Both are undodgeable and negate Regenerationn.

It's likely just bonuses related to strength and such.
 
Hmm, I could see Lancer winning if he used Gae Bolg right away, as Undyne has no counter for it.

Draw otherwise, Undyne would make up for the damage she isn't doing with quantity, and Lancer would likely fall if struck with an absurd amount of spears, but Undyne would die when struck once.
 
Changing your answer to inconclusive?
 
Mkay 0 - 3 - 1 (Possibly 0 - 4)

By the way, Lancer usually doesn't go for Gae Bolg right off the bat. He's in-character, not bloodlusted in this case.

Edit: Wait, would Gae Bolg even work on Undyne? She's basically magic, and she probably doesn't have a heart. The anti-regen would work, but Undyne doesn't really regen anyways.
 
Lancer has advantage of Gae Bolg. He use it freely in character (Archer just knew about it and was retreating during their confrontation.

Additionaly Lancer has advantage of his Runes. Some of them can dispell magic.
 
So, you're voting for Lancer?

And doesn't his runes take time to place?
 
@Xmark12: The "heart" in Gae Bolg's description is how Nasu define a person's core. In Fate/Extra, Lancer uses his Gae Bolg to destroy Rani's core, not her heart (she's a homunculus with a heart and a core to supply prana) which is very strange because Rani survives and uses prana from outside.

So, this "heart" isn't always a human's heart, and i'll give my vote to Lancer.
 
Mkay 0 - 5 - 1 (Possibly 0 - 6) in favor of Lancer.

I think this is good enough, should we wait for other people before adding this to their profiles?
 
Xmark, there needs to be 7 votes in favor of one of the characters. Do you not know what requirements for that on here?
 
Then we can wait for more people, my bad.
 
My vote goes to Lancer.

PfA let him even block the daggers fired by True Assassin when they were fired between his swings, so I don't see Undyne's spears getting through to him at all, direction swapped or not. Projectiles basically just don't work against him in this capacity.

And yeah, as previously mentioned, Gao Bolg brings this to a close with a nearly sure victory due to how it functions, and the fact that even if she survives it once (somehow), he could just fire it off again and again.
 
So that's possibly 7, but would Talonmask's vote be counted as inconclusive or a vote for Lancer?
 
Inconclusive, while PfA is impressive, I'm not sure if it's enough to stop all of Undyne's projectiles.
 
Lancer.

As stated above Gae Bolg is too Hax unless you have something stopping it from killing you and you can't regenerate normally. The spear also has anti-regen/healing, but this is only if it's activated from what I know. His stats will also gain a boost because of him being a monster hunter.

I'm not sure if soul magic will be that effective on him as it normally would because of his resistance.
 
0 - 7 - 1.

Mkay, we've got all the scores in favor of Lancer.

Anyone wanna put this?
 
Where do you go to report finished battles to admins?
 
oh, whoops. I forgot about that.


edit: added request.

Mark, you go up to "featured," then scroll to "threads" and then one should say "Matchup addition request."
 
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