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No preamble; a good argument is that characters' offensive magic is the same level as their physical strength, but they may be lower levels tha their magic types they perform their biggest feats with.
Seriously, since there's difference in power between lifting strength and striking strength, how can there not be such difference also between magic types?
Also seriously:
1) In the SSB series, also created by Sakurai, Master Hand proves to be able to create universes, yet…
a. He fails to fly through Tabuu's effortlessly created thin energy wall, like Ganondorf failed to deflect the same opponent's charged large energy ball.
b. He's defeated by one fighter near the end of "World of Light", so even if Classic Modes hadn't been canon prior to Ultimate's release, they are now.
2) In Kid Icarus: Uprising, also directed by Sakurai, Palutena proves to be capable of impressive supernatural feats, yet she could barely defeat Pit (a), who is comparable to Magnus (b), who is barely strong for a Human.
a. She can obliterate any of the two with her most powerful attack, but needs half a minute to charge it.
b. Pit defeats Magnus and Gaol in a battle, but the opponents mustn't use their full strength, given how they speak.
3) In the Kirby series, Dedede helps the puffball defeat Magolor, who can do impressive magic feats, yet he needs his power increased as Masked Dedede to knock down a small rock statue with an axe swing and another one with three magic balls.
"You're saying that not only are the characters' offensive magic and physical strength lower levels than their other magic types but also they're below small rock statue level and its equivalents?"
1) That instance is just a first proof.
2) Dedede also needs three hammer swings to smash a small boulder in a cavern of Ripple Star.
3) Kirby needs the Starship to destroy the columns generating the force field protecting the first Nova's core, as supported in the earlier cutscene.
- BTW, the core being left unprotected afterward would be pointless if it weren't hit by Marx later.
- And he's sent flying by the hero but stops and flashes prior to flying?
- For starters, the latter has to summon the Nova because he can't stop the moon-sized sun and moon from fighting.
4) He can't destroy Dyna Blade's armor, as supported in her trophy description in Brawl.
5) Neither can he destroy the Halberd's Combo Cannon without Star Bullets or Copy Abilities, or its wings, reactor, or bridge directly, as supported in the dialogues.
6) He gets exhausted and hungry in a desert after gathering all the Crystal's shards on Rock Star.
7) He can't open the Star Door without the Star Seals.
8) He doesn't jump to the rising Taranza and Dedede to even try to rescue the latter from the former.
9) He fails to break free from Sectonia's left vine while she's not even squeezing him yet.
10) The catchphrase that he can inhale anything was taken at face value for Hypernova so that he can actually do what he says he can and players get surprised by seeing him inhale larger objects, the first of which is a tree barely taller than one meter in what must be a cutscene, given how the background changes, how the camera moves, and the health meter going away.
11) He needs Pon and Con to open the Jambastion's gate and enter the fortress.
12) He needs a Friend Star to destroy the boulders inside the Jambastion and escape its collapse, as supported in the cutscene and later image at the level's end .
… Outliers? In order to know that, we need at least 13 proofs; and no, they can be from mini-games only if there are already at least 13 proofs from main modes.
No conclusion, either.
Seriously, since there's difference in power between lifting strength and striking strength, how can there not be such difference also between magic types?
Also seriously:
1) In the SSB series, also created by Sakurai, Master Hand proves to be able to create universes, yet…
a. He fails to fly through Tabuu's effortlessly created thin energy wall, like Ganondorf failed to deflect the same opponent's charged large energy ball.
b. He's defeated by one fighter near the end of "World of Light", so even if Classic Modes hadn't been canon prior to Ultimate's release, they are now.
2) In Kid Icarus: Uprising, also directed by Sakurai, Palutena proves to be capable of impressive supernatural feats, yet she could barely defeat Pit (a), who is comparable to Magnus (b), who is barely strong for a Human.
a. She can obliterate any of the two with her most powerful attack, but needs half a minute to charge it.
b. Pit defeats Magnus and Gaol in a battle, but the opponents mustn't use their full strength, given how they speak.
3) In the Kirby series, Dedede helps the puffball defeat Magolor, who can do impressive magic feats, yet he needs his power increased as Masked Dedede to knock down a small rock statue with an axe swing and another one with three magic balls.
"You're saying that not only are the characters' offensive magic and physical strength lower levels than their other magic types but also they're below small rock statue level and its equivalents?"
1) That instance is just a first proof.
2) Dedede also needs three hammer swings to smash a small boulder in a cavern of Ripple Star.
3) Kirby needs the Starship to destroy the columns generating the force field protecting the first Nova's core, as supported in the earlier cutscene.
- BTW, the core being left unprotected afterward would be pointless if it weren't hit by Marx later.
- And he's sent flying by the hero but stops and flashes prior to flying?
- For starters, the latter has to summon the Nova because he can't stop the moon-sized sun and moon from fighting.
4) He can't destroy Dyna Blade's armor, as supported in her trophy description in Brawl.
5) Neither can he destroy the Halberd's Combo Cannon without Star Bullets or Copy Abilities, or its wings, reactor, or bridge directly, as supported in the dialogues.
6) He gets exhausted and hungry in a desert after gathering all the Crystal's shards on Rock Star.
7) He can't open the Star Door without the Star Seals.
8) He doesn't jump to the rising Taranza and Dedede to even try to rescue the latter from the former.
9) He fails to break free from Sectonia's left vine while she's not even squeezing him yet.
10) The catchphrase that he can inhale anything was taken at face value for Hypernova so that he can actually do what he says he can and players get surprised by seeing him inhale larger objects, the first of which is a tree barely taller than one meter in what must be a cutscene, given how the background changes, how the camera moves, and the health meter going away.
11) He needs Pon and Con to open the Jambastion's gate and enter the fortress.
12) He needs a Friend Star to destroy the boulders inside the Jambastion and escape its collapse, as supported in the cutscene and later image at the level's end .
… Outliers? In order to know that, we need at least 13 proofs; and no, they can be from mini-games only if there are already at least 13 proofs from main modes.
No conclusion, either.
