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Scio vs Kars.

Because I wanted to. Kars has all his stands, and this is High 6-A Scion. Speed equalized, SBA, blah blah blah.

Scio: 1

Kars:

Inconclusive:
3
 
Kars understands that Scion has power "immunity" which more than covers his useful abilities and gets stilled gg
 
Kars understands those resistances ovo
 
Scion stills his understanding

which he can legit do considering his stilling nulls powers too, even stands like Siberian
 
Kars understands stilling his understanding
 
memes aside though

I really don't see how Kars doesn't instantly die
 
I said this before, this is a mismatch. Scion can't kill every Kars in the multiverse and Kars can't kill Scion period.
 
Actually, he doesn't need to

He can just still D4C and stop it from getting more copies of Kars
 
Path to Victory means he just instantly understands D4C wont allow him to kill Kars.

Was gonna say he can't also be power copied but i believe understanding scales above it.
 
dunno when Kars has actually bypassed power copy resistance, but Scion easily tanks through powers and adapts his shards with conflict, so ugh
 
meant for a second that the potency of what Kars has U N D E R S T O O D would make me think maybe he just doesn't care, but you are right.
 
if he can't copy it, it won't be relevant

cause even if he can comprehend all of Scion's powers, all he can do is also comprehend that he's about to die to his everything.
 
Scion: you needed worthy opponents, thot

claps
 
What i was saying was low 1-C is his absolute limit,he wasnt even able to copy beyond. Im personally leaning towards scion myself
 
But that's the point, understanding is not about understanding concepts. That's something everyone can do even if some more complex ones would be hard unless you are smart enough.

Understanding is about copying abilities by... well, understanding. Kars getting what the hell Beyond is doesn't mean he caps at low 1-C.
 
I mean like, literally any form of understanding is conceptual

A concept is an idea, understanding ideas are inherintly conceptual

It's like saying you have atom based matter manipulation

atoms are already matter, it's redundant
 
Kars' Understanding isn't some sort of magial power, it's simply something natural to him, it isn't supernatural in amyway despite it allowing him to copy and even adapt to supernatural powers and such, as such unless Scion's null extends down to things as simple as breathing then Kars' understanding should be fine.

I'd also like to point out Kars' understanding allows him to copy low 2-C powers at a glance without even seeing the thing, and yes, that's accepted, we have D4CU as having universe creation on the profile and it was mentioned and talked about already in a thread awhileback, we just don't have a tier for it. Ergo unless Scion has shown the capabilities of nulling a universal-esque power (albeit not physically low 2-C) then Kars' Understanding (in quotation) should be sufficient to have him understand Scion's powers and negation and circumvent that as Kars' has shown the capability of adapting and copyig powers on such a scale with ease, in fact Kars, depending on the mechanics of the ability in question, could possibly copy the negation and use it against Scion.

Do with that information what you will, I probably won't have the time to heavily debate this match. I only got enough time to check in like once a day as of late.
 
I'll reiterate. Kars can't do anything to Scion here.
 
Does Scion not have any powers that are effective on himself?
 
Considering his arsenal of power immunity

no not really

And that would require Kars immediately pull them out as opposed to dying to Scion throwing anything at him
 
Do we really have proof for "Resistance to Everything" though?

Like, wouldn't it be a marginal NLF?
 
Scion actively tanks through a ton of stuff during Gold Morning and he is capable of stilling powers like Siberian or Gray Boy's billion year long time loops
 
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