• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Pokemon God Tier Acausality Addition

16,940
4,844
Meant to make this earlier, but i've been very busy with school and other stuff. So i'll make this now while the chance strikes me,

On an earlier CRT I made for the Creation Trio, NeoZex6399 posted some interesting scans for Dialga and Palkia having passive causality haxes, which if checking out, would give them and other god tiers an upgrade in Acasuality as well. But before we get to discussing which type this would result in, lets post some scans to prove Dialga and Palkia are entirely unaffected by it.

Evidence of Ignoring Effects
Read from this point onward on this link.

Dialga and Palkia were just summoned, start fighting , and Professor Rowan's lab assistant starts a space-time detection program to detect distortions .

Literally on the very next page, the distortions begin.

Then it goes to Dialga and Palkia fighting each other, while at the same time, Pearl is getting effected by the distortions. Both are fighting as if nothing is happening to them at all.

More evidence, the program for detecting space-time anamolies from Professor Rowan's lab assistant shows Dialga and Palkia fighting on screen, completely fine and unaffected by the effects of their fighting, despite the numbers being abnormal.

Next, Rowan says that the distortion has expanded underground, meaning it's still happening but in a bigger radius now than before. And Dialga and Palkia are still fighting through it unaffected.

Finally, Dialga and Palkia during their battle make the distortion even bigger. And they are still unaffected by it's effects.

So at this point, it should be clear that Dialga and Palkia are entirely unaffected by these haxes. Justifying them to be Acasual.

Now, as for the type of Acasuality? Thats something that should be discussed in the thread.

As for who should get the Acasuality? Other than the obvious, Giratina and Darkrai should get this. The former bullied Dialga (and Palkia in the manga) and Darkrai can fight against both Dialga and Palkia at once. The Lake Trio? Most likely since they can interact with both. Arceus? Self-explanatory.
 
Looks pretty good to me.

Also, this should give them passive Causality Manip. Apparently, none of them have that.

Also, to be safe, I am voting Type 4 Acausality.
 
Yes, this should be resistance to space-time manipulation, not Acausality.
 
There's a statement (that I, at the moment, can't find. But I know some people that can during the day) of Dialga and Palkia distorting causal law with their fights.

That there looks like it could be that. Which is why I'll have to disagree that it's spacetime resistance.
 
Zeifyl said:
There's a statement (that I, at the moment, can't find. But I know some people that can during the day) of Dialga and Palkia distorting causal law with their fights.
That there looks like it could be that. Which is why I'll have to disagree that it's spacetime resistance.
^^
 
@Zeifyl

Your PC or Phone should automatically be able to translate it, as mine does.

@Sigurd

Repeating something that kinda got countered isn't much.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
@Zeifyl
Your PC or Phone should automatically be able to translate it, as mine does.
My PC refuses. Oh! Oh, NOW it works! Thanks for the consistency, PC!
 
"ÕÀÀÒüºÒÇüÒü¥ÒüôÒü¿ÒüùÒéäÒüïÒü½ÒüòÒüòÒéäÒüïÒéîÒüªÒüäÒéïÒüôÒü¿ÒüîÒüéÒéïÒÇéÒÇîÒüôÒü«õ©ûþòîÒü½Òü»"ÒéäÒüÂÒéîÒüƒÒüøÒüïÒüä"Òü¿ÒüäÒüåþò░µ¼íÕàâÒüîÒüéÒéïÒÇìÒü¿ÒÇéÒÇîÒéäÒüÂÒéîÒüƒÒüøÒüïÒüäÒÇìÒü¿Òü»ÒÇüÒüôÒü«õ©ûþòîÒü«ÞúÅÕü┤Òü½ÒüéÒéïÒü¿Þ¿ÇÒéÅÒéîÒüªÒüäÒéïÒÇüÒüôÒü«õ©ûÒü«Õ©©Þ¡ÿÒüîÚÇÜþö¿ÒüùÒü¬Òüäþò░µ¼íÕàâþ®║ÚûôÒüºÒüéÒéïÒÇéÒüØÒüôÒü½Òü»µÖéÚûôÒü»µÁüÒéîÒüªÒüèÒéëÒüÜÒÇüþ®║ÚûôÒü»Õ«ëÕ«ÜÒüùÒüªÒüäÒü¬ÒüäÒü¿ÒüäÒüåÒÇéÒüØÒüùÒüªÒÇüÒüôÒü«Þ¼ÄÒéüÒüäÒüƒõ©ûþòîÒü½Òü»ÒÇüõ╝ØÞ¬¼Òü«ÒâØÒé▒ÒâóÒâ│ÒÇîÒé«Òâ®ÒâåÒéúÒâèÒÇìÒüîþöƒµü»ÒüùÒüªÒüäÒéïÒü¿Þ¿ÇÒéÅÒéîÒüªÒüäÒéïÒÇé"

"ÕàêµùÑÒÇüÒéäÒéèÒü«Òü»ÒüùÒéëÒüºÕ¢▒ÒéÆþø«µÆâÒüùÒüƒÒé╣Òé┐ÒââÒâòÒüîÞ¿ÇÒüåÒü½Òü»ÒÇüÒüôÒü«ÕåÖþ£ƒÒü»þø«µÆâÒüùÒüƒÕ¢▒Òü¿ÒüïÒü¬Òéèõ╝╝ÒüªÒüäÒéïÒü¿ÒüäÒüåÒÇéÒé╣ÒâèÒââÒâùÒéƵ©íÒüùÒüƒõ║║þë®Òü»ÒÇüÒé«Òâ®ÒâåÒéúÒâèÒü»ÒéäÒüÂÒéîÒüƒõ©ûþòîÒüïÒéëÒüôÒüíÒéëÒü«õ©ûþòîÒéÆÚØÖÒüïÒü½ÞªïÒüñÒéüÒüªÒüèÒéèÒÇüõ©ûþòîÒü«þÉåÒéÆþá┤ÒéïÒééÒü«ÒüîÒüéÒéîÒü░ÒÇüµÇÆÒéèþïéÒüúÒüªÒéäÒüÂÒéîÒüƒõ©ûþòîÒü©Òü¿Õ╝òÒüìÞ¥╝ÒéÇÒü¿Þ¿ÇÒüåÒÇé"

"ÒéªÒâòÒâò……ÒÇüÒéäÒüÂÒéîÒüƒÒüøÒüïÒüäÒü¬ÒéôÒüªÒÇüÒü¬ÒéôÒüªÒé╣ÒâåÒé¡Òü¬ÕÉìÕëìÒü¬Òü«ÒüïÒüùÒéë……ÒÇéÒüìÒüúÒü¿Õøáµ×£Õ¥ïÒüòÒü굡¬ÒéôÒüºÒüùÒü¥ÒüåÒü«Òü¡……ÒÇé"

According to Kep the last sentence says that causality is distorted in the distortion world.
 
I'm very skeptical about it due to the exaggerations about common sense not applying and time not flowing. It should give Giratina Causality Manipulation but nothing more, there is no reason for it to give anyone Acausality as nobody has its history being altered. Causality being distorted can also logically just mean stuff working randomly in the present.
 
Also law is not said there. Which is as good of a time as any to remind everyone how much of a mess Giratina's profile is, claims that contradict the evidence linked to them being part of the problem.
 
Well, I don't but I disbelieve that Arceus created the multiverse, so make what you will of that.
 
Can we not get off topic here please?

Anyway, yeah this isnt the casual law statement (we used to have it but it got lost in the dark ages, so Cal gave me this one) but the translation blatantly says that even casuality will be distorted.
 
That's kinda redundant as NeoZex6399 said the same, saying something on what I pointed out about it would make finishing this thread sooner.
 
Then im not seeing the issue, especially when Giratina isn't the main topic here but what Dialga and Palkia did in the scans I provided.

Evidence was asked for them being able to effect casuality, and I provided it.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Then im not seeing the issue, especially when Giratina isn't the main topic here but what Dialga and Palkia did in the scans I provided.

Evidence was asked for them being able to effect casuality, and I provided it.
None of the scans you provided show causality manipulation.

The website you linked is in japanese.

The translation doesnt specify that Dialga and Palkia affect causality.

U wot m8?
 
You surely must be kidding.

That cant be the only mention to causality.

A hypothesis about causality being distorted in the distortion world cant be what you are trying to use.
 
Well no, there's also the casual law statement that we most definitely had before (it's been mentioned in several past revisions for the CT so we know it was on their pages).

But I can't find the link to it. So that is the next best thing.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Then im not seeing the issue, especially when Giratina isn't the main topic here but what Dialga and Palkia did in the scans I provided. 'Evidence was asked for them being able to effect casuality, and I provided it.'
Causality being distorted in the distortion world would be Causality Manipulation for Giratina for creating that place, not Dialga and Palkia. And that's at best given how unreliable that is.
 
operating on a diferrent or irregular system of cause and effect is Acausality type 4, but that seems like some sort of hax resistence, but I could be wrong

also Giratina actually IS the Distortion World IIRC
 
I saw it, you said that before. I personally don't change my opinion on this but will look forward that new info.
 
As I said before, I disagree with them being acasual, and this would just give to Giratina Causality manip and even only in the Distortion World
 
Again, I still stand by earlier stance on this. But it would be more explicit if we could find the casual law statement.........
 
"ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Again, I still stand by earlier stance on this. But it would be more explicit if we could find the casual law statement.........
Do you mean this ?

1)"The staff member who spotted the shadow at the Spear Pillar said that this picture was similar to the shadow they saw. The person who gave us this snapshot said that Giratina quietly watches this world, dragging those that break the laws of the world into the Distortion World to feel its wrath.
We are still investigating the Distortion World and Giratina. Please stay tuned for future updates."


2)"Sakuji: And so, this theme is "other dimensions". Since long ago, stories of other worlds have been unending across the world. But with solid evidence of this Distortion World, we are one step closer to the truth.


Hitomi: Ufufu... The Distortion World, such a wonderful name... The laws of reality must even distort there...


Oonuki: Going into other dimensions is simply laughable. This friend of a friend's story has a 97.8% chance of being a huge lie.


Hitomi: ... What's the remaining 2.2%?


Oonuki: That they misheard."


3)"Ah, what should I do to call Giratina to me? Maybe if I try to distort the laws of this world it'll come. Then I better start now. I'll curse this world to disappear."
 
Back
Top