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A new rule against profiles for tools and toys?

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Hello.

Lately there have been some profiles created for ordinary tools, toys, and similar, which we have then deleted if they are noticed.

Do the rest of you think that it would be a good idea to create a specific rule against creating these types of profiles. That way we would at least have a clearer precedent for this than common sense.
 
We have a Weapons category because certain weapons deserve profiles, such as many types of swords, guns and bombs.

Toys do not fall under this category in my opinion.

And unless said tools can and have been used as weapons, such as sledgehammers or pickaxes, I don't really see a reason why they should be added.

I'd support a new rule on this.
 
Thanks for the support.
 
Does this mean that characters like Forky would be deleted? He falls under two of those categories (Tools and toys).
 
I don't think a new rule is necessary at all. It's common sense to not add toys that don't qualify as weapons, and this subject is a thing because a single user doesn't understand the difference while the rest of the wiki does.

It's kinda pointless to me.
 
I am neutral about this as you should be able to figure out what belongs and what doesn't but a rule adding clarification wouldn't hurt.
 
Joaco0902 said:
Does this mean that characters like Forky would be deleted? He falls under two of those categories (Tools and toys).
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I think Forky doesn't fall under this since he's a fictional character before anything else. He also has abilities that no IRL toy could have.
 
Joaco0902 said:
Does this mean that characters like Forky would be deleted? He falls under two of those categories (Tools and toys).
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He is an actual character. I am referring to real world objects.
 
AFAIK no real-world toy has a profile on this page.
 
To be clear, we are talking about a rule against IRL toys and tools only, correct?

Edit:

Just now seeing that this is in the staff board, my bad.
 
KLOL506 said:
AFAIK no real-world toy has a profile on this page.
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There were Nerf toys and a floating flamenco just yesterday. The latter's case is what generated this discussion since an user doesn't understand that it is a toy rather than an actual vehicle so he argued about its worth.

That's why we're here now.
 
I need to double check because I've been feeling a lot of deja vu over this. Did I previous upload Labo Robot and was it deleted for this reason? I tried to search for any sign of it being posted previously but didn't see anything, so I thought maybe I just forgot to post it in the first place?

(Sorry, didn't realize this was staff)
 
Robot972, the deletion logs state the profiles was deleted because of "Unreliable statistics".

The statistics should be back by accepted calculations.

I don't think this profile would fall under the proposed rule.
 
If the Labo Robot is a toy it still probably shouldn't be allowed in the wiki.
 
Well, a brief rule doesn't hurt at least. It would allow us to cite something other than common sense.
 
The profile is based off the game character, not the cardboard controller itself. Now, I'm not gonna make a profile for, say, the weird bug thing that you attach the joycons to and shake because that is purely a toy, but the robot itself is a character. I just didn't know if was deleted. I'll calc the stats when I get a chance
 
I mean, people were legitimately being serious in adding haxless 10-B sitcom characters and going out to contact authors and stuff. We can never really judge how stupid someone is tbh, since the answer is they're stupider than that. I'm in favour of adding the rule
 
Zark2099 said:
I mean, people were legitimately being serious in adding haxless 10-B sitcom characters and going out to contact authors and stuff. We can never really judge how stupid someone is tbh, since the answer is they're stupider than that. I'm in favour of adding the rule
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^ This is an immensely good point in favour of adding the rule.
 
Well, I would have worded it in a more neutral manner, since I do not want to cause offence, but there is always a big possibility that somebody misunderstands without clear instructions, yes.
 
If I see one more "profiles that are allowed" thread...

First and foremost, it's not that people are stupid, it's classic lite-trolling. They want sitcom characters for the lulz, they want toys for the lulz. They aren't taking this seriously enough (keyword: enough) and that's the problem.

Not everyone is as serious as say, Antvasima, when it comes to the site. This is both a good and bad thing. What matters is balance. This is mostly just a hobby for people.

However, it's clear that we have standards in place for a reason. We have basic integrity. Our role and the very purpose of this site is index fictional characters. Preferably modern-day characters from notable series (but there's room for exception).

We aren't having ordinary toy profiles here. Period. Simply draw line between having fun and boderline trollish behavior.
 
You'd imagine people would be pushing the boundaries of what's acceptible on the site less after the recent YouTube purge on the site.
 
Zark2099 said:
I mean, people were legitimately being serious in adding haxless 10-B sitcom characters and going out to contact authors and stuff. We can never really judge how stupid someone is tbh, since the answer is they're stupider than that. I'm in favour of adding the rule
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Barney Stinso
 
>9-B

>Has actual abilities

>Has speed feats that shouldn't be possible for a sitcom character

Barney's fair play.
 
I personally was talking about that Charlie Sheen character that was being added.
 
I think it's common sense and a rule is not necessary. Unless there is a noticeable increase in such profiles currently by multiple users due to legitimate confusion. In that case I can support the rule.

Perhaps we can incorporate the new rule into this existing rule and make it clear that real world tools and toys are not allowed.

"The only exception to these rules is Real Life, which serves as more of a reference for feats and common weapons, events, and animals, rather than being an actual verse."
 
"Common weapons" being a key word there, as well as being a note of contention for some.

Couldn't we add a sub-rule to that one, stating what exactly qualifies as a common weapon?
 
@AKM

I am fine with incorporating a brief mention into another rule. I just don't think that adding such a rule in the first place causes any harm.
 
@Starter Pack

That is probably fine. I am open for suggestions regarding what exactly that our modified rules should say.
 
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