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Azure Striker Gunvolt is secretly Earthbound (Gunvolt revisions)

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Not in a Sans is Ness way, but in a tier 2 entity keeping the protagonist alive way

The Player is a thing that exists
Alright, this is going to be complicated.

So, Demerzel, if he kills Copen, says he's hit a "Dead End". This seems like a strange and oddly specific thing to say. This could probably be written off, if it wasn't for another thing. This is the diologue in the Boss Rush:

Demerzel: HAHAHA... JUST LIKE OLD TIMES, ISN'T IT?

Copen: ...What?

(Demerzel appears)

Copen: Damn you, Asimov!

Demerzel: SURPRISED TO SEE ME?

Copen: So, you survived.

Demerzel: I EXIST AS ELECTRICITY. I AM ALREADY BEYOND DEATH. ARE YOU READY? THIS IS OUR FINAL BATTLE! YOU'RE ON A ONE WAY PATH STRAIGHT TO HELL! A DEAD END!!

Copen: I could say the same. Feel free to pray, but that won't do you any good now.


There that is again. He said a Dead End again. This really doesn't make much sense as just something to say. It's as if he knows Copen will come back. Adding to this is his quote if he defeats you in the boss rush:

HAHAHA! THIS WAR OF OURS WILL NEVER END!

I saw Bob say that this may be referring to how Asimov thinks he killed Copen in the actual ending. But, this doesn't really make sense. How would that explain the talks of a Dead End? Asimov seems to know that Copen will come back. Copen has no way of coming back accept for Anthem, and Asimov is more than willing to just kill Lola so that's not an issue.

A Dead End likely is supposed to mean a situation where the player can't win in a situation. Like when Asimov powernulled and shot Gunvolt and Joule, essentially giving The Player no options, meaning he'll die effectively no matter what.

Another bit of evidence is the final Zonda fight in Gunvolt 2. Gunvolt is empowered by someone's singing. Is Gunvolt singing? No. If he was, we'd hear it in the soundtrack. You, the player, are the one singing (Literally. You need to sing into the microphone to stop Paradise Lost). Canonically, this would be some sort of outside entity, naturally. What you could argue this is just a 4th wall break, it's supported by Demerzel's speak of Dead Ends.

Not to mention, the time reversal/causality manipulation in Gunvolt 1 could also be credited to this entity, not Joule, which frankly makes more sense. There's no way to get Causality Manipulation from empowering Adepts. Generally, Septimas give themselves a theme and stick with it. It makes more sense that this being did that and not an Adept.

Mytyl also seems to talk to the player in the ending to 2, but that's a very minor thing.

Beta for the theoretical profile

What this means if it's true
Player Profile exists.

Gunvolt's Type 8 is now reliant on The Player, not Joule

Copen now has type 4 and 8 immortality

Joule no longer has Causality Manipulation, Clairvoyance or Powernull

Other thing
Normal humans would actually by High 8-C, not 8-C. I just kinda forgot Large Building level was a tier that existed.
 
Obviously. This would take Gunvolt from pretty good to making Gunvolt and Copen some of the strongest characters in their tiers. I honestly think we'd need admin support for this before we could apply the revisions.
 
Looking through the Immortality page, I don't think Copen having Type 4 makes much sense. Type 8, yes, but not Type 4.
 
The Type 8 would be Type 4, if that makes sense. The Type 4 would just be a result of the type 8.
 
Wait, is the Boss Rush thing even canon to begin with?

As chances are it's not, making the whole thing invalid.

There's also this being very dubious and no actual names being given to the "player" (or anyone for that matter) to begin with.
 
@Bob

There's specific special diologue for Demerzel in the Boss Rush, and we see him seemingly leave his containers (Presumeably to new ones) after almost killing Copen.
 
Yeah, but simply put, the main thing that canonically happened and the boss rush simply can't overlap in a single canon without a lot of headcanon.

And Mytyl's interactions can be passed as just minor 4th wall breaking.
 
We see Demerzel seemingly leave. It's not much of a strech to assume he went to backup containers before his old ones were shot. Copen aknowledges that he fought Demerzel before. Read the quote in the OP.

It wasn't silly 4th wall breaking, though.
 
Yes, but for Copen to suddently get there and assume it's canon?

At best a possibly could work in here.
 
He dosn't "suddenly" get there. Not any more then with every other stage. He obviously would have traveled there. It's not any more unrealistic then him or Gunvolt traveling halfway across an unknown country in the first two games.

In no other special stage in the entire franchise has had diologue. They wouldn't put it there all of a sudden in just one stage for no reason.
 
They didn't do that for any other boss rush. They wouldn't do that just to make you feel special.
 
Well, does anything noteworthy beyond a simple results screen appears if you manage to defeat him?
 
The Dead End part seems like a jump or a combination of some pretty heavy interpertation / headcanon. You're also gonna need some confirmation about the canonicity of Boss Rush first.

Though, not to sound like a harbringer of bad news, but aren't Casuality Manipulation and Clairvoyance at best just Time Travel? Most likely the game being cheeky with the true end (Espically since its never referenced again)?

Not sure about the player part tho, again kinda seems speculatory.
 
So I guess this is a no for the time being. If anything else points to the Player's existence in GV3, then maybe, but for now it's too flimsy to really use.
 
BoomerKuwanger1 said:
Boss rush is not canon, there is no indication to assume Asimov is alive/re-brainwashed blade after dying at the end of the game.
Asimov was still alive, he just had to retreat to recover or else he would actually die, but the rest is correct, yes.
 
And Demerzel literally can create realistic holographs with mass. So, you know, he probably did that. And I still think there's litearlly zero reason for them to include diologue that aknowledges canon events and to have it not be canon.

Actually could creating a holograph with mass count for mass energy conversion, giving the LAiX cast High 7-A instead of normal 7-A?
 
...hm, that's actually a good point, but you should put that in a separate post. I say we close this and leave it alone for now.
 
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