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Fairy Tail Hundred Year Quest Discussion Thread 8

I give it a week or two tops before a thread gets made. Unless there is someome who '''''really''''' disliles FT that I don't know about.
 
I have some scan which can give ft characters aura and fear manipulation, anyone want to check it out?
 
basically this, character with higher magical power shown to fear manipulation like ability on others, Overhelming aura should be confirmed because of gray statement regarding brandish.

also focused on sfx more since they make scan more clear

(forget to add scan where zirconis said he fear in speaking acnologia name even after his death.)

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AnonymousBlank said:
I give it a week or two tops before a thread gets made. Unless there is someome who really disliles FT that I don't know about.
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Well we might get some loud individuals who are higly opposed, but once again, the entirety of the previous thread was unanimous, so chances are that as long as the majority agrees with the upgrades, then there shouldn't be an issue

This is less of a debatable upgrade, since there's a direct statement saying that their power is equal, and it's blatantly stated many times that he has the power to wipe out the planet's surface

So unlike most past CRT's, there's actual statements of direct power scaling
 
Thats why I gave it two weeks lol. Guys like Alien X didn't even take a day for a CRT to contest 2-B and that was only due to different timezones I believe. Thankfully we have clear X = Y statements or we might have spent half week arguing it like with Etherion. Downgrades will probably go for the calc itself or say outlier even though everything Zeref and up are in a vacuum of them stomping everything below and unquantifiably absurd amounts of magic.
 
Every verse that gets a sudden large increase in power gets a CRT to downgrade, God of War, Ben 10, Fate, Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, and many more deal with this problem

What's sad is that we know it's inevitable, I'm not saying they will get downgraded, I'm just saying there will a thread made to try and downgrade them, calling it an Outlier or saying the Surface Destruction statement is Hyberbole, point being, it's gonna happen eventually

I just hope it lasts
 
Tbf, this is pretty cut and dry. We have a feat, we have a comparison from a knowledgable source who got their hands on everything they possibly could, and the feat is compared to a character that exists in a vacuum whose only antifeat is losing to Ultear but everyone knows that is PIS. Unless we get feats in 100YQ that are better than Deus Sema but worse than the Phoenix that defeats one of the god tiers, there isn't anything to contradict this.
 
So as Natsu with the power of 7 Dragon Slayers gets PS with Acno which has 12.4 Exatons, with Dragon Force he should get 5-C
 
@ShadowGun45

Dragon Force doesn't have an official multiplier and the Natsu that fought Acnologisa already had Dragon Force activated, so no multipliers like that

@Mr.Cinos15

We should discuss it
 
I think he should be two times stronger simply because if the Fairy Heart is equal or stronger than the Phoenix, it would be 6.2 Exatons or above, and if Base Zeref is Equal to the Phoenix, He would also be 6.2 Exatons. Since he basically absorbed the FH into himself, you simply add both of the powers together, which makes 12.4 Exatons.

I know I'm stating the obvious and I'm not trying to insult anyone, but I honestly feel like there shouldn't be that much controversy behind something as simple as this.
 
if you consider it to be much larger than 2 or 3 times then he gets 5-C if using Dragon Force along with his Peek isn't it?
 
DF power increase is highly inconsistent, and cause of that we can't use them to get higher tiers that don't originate from scaling or a calced feat.
 
At least Speed must be scaled since Erza wasn't getting Up because of the emotions when she threw herself into Deus Sema.
 
Erza was not flushed with emotions when she reacted to Deus Sema Only when she is already in the air and starts asking Makarov for strength
 
We already decided this stuff a while ago, all the Deus Sema stuff with Erza only scales to her Enhanced Emotion state
 
Heck she only scales to Top tiers with her emotions, not even God tiers.

Also going back to DF power increases for Natsu, the power range for how much stronger he gets with Dragon Force can range from at minimum 51.7782632092x (Low 7-B to 7-A), all the way to a maximum of a 3,069,306,930.6x increase (High 7-A to High 6-A) with 386.904761904x in between them (7-C to 7-B). So there is no way we can use Dragon Force to upgrade character's to a higher tier then what's shown.
 
I know I might be pushing it, but wouldn't Pre SBT Human Acno downscale from FH Zeref if not fully scale to him? The reason I say this is because Zeref can only possibly beat him with FH, nothing else.
 
High 6-A (6.2 Exatons): Base Zeref, DF and Igneel's Flame Natsu, Phoenix, Human Acnologia

High 6-A (12.4 Exatons): Fairy Heart Zeref, Savage Dragon Fire Natsu, Dragon Acnologia, Dragon Gods, Ignia's Fire Natsu, Igneel

At least High 6-A (At least 12.4 Exatons): Human Acnologia (SBT), Seven Flames Natsu

High 6-A+ (24.8 Exatons): Dragon Acnologia (SBT)
 
But just for ***** and giggles, I'll be making a high ball (wank) Scale that I think is possible, but only possible, not concrete.

High 6-A (6.2 Exatons): Base Zeref, DF and Igneel's Flame Natsu, Phoenix

At least High 6-A, possibly higher (At least 6.2 Exatons, possibly 12.4 Exatons), Human Acnologia

High 6-A (12.4 Exatons): Fairy Heart Zeref, Savage Dragon Fire Natsu, Igneel

At least High 6-A, possibly High 6-A+ (At least 12.4 Exatons, possibly 24.8): Dragon Acnologia, Dragon Gods, Ignia's Fire Natsu, Human Acnologia (SBT), Seven Flames Natsu

High 6-A+, possibly 5-C (24.8 Exatons, possibly 49.6 Exatons): Dragon Acnologia (SBT)

The reason I thought of this is that when it was stated that only through Fairy Heart could Zeref possibly defeat Acnologia, the thing is though, it didn't say which form (I think), so it's possible to assume either his human form or his Dragon Form, so this scale was made as a what if for both scenarios. I feel like this is the best of both world's as it cover's both options, leaving the Dragon Acno scenario as the concrete rating, and the Human Acno scenario as a possibility. And for Igneel, I think he would also downscale from Dragon Acno or possibly fully scale, I just don't know with him.
 
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