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Garou vs Gildedguy 2

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Stop derailing the versus thread removal request board.

It was such a nice thing to avoid the first thread, but this is it. I'm redoing it just so people stop the derail.

7-A versions, speed equalized.

Not in the mood to work on the OP at all.
 
It really didn't require a remake. The verdict was already done.
 
Because all of you are complaining in the wrong place, and the match isn't in the profiles anyway. If one of the sides is wrong, prove it here, not there.
 
Except the problem was primarily with vote counts, as I affirmed multiple times. A brief debate was needed to clarify Gil votes not being invalid.

And the votes favored Gildedguy.

I'm fairly sure debating vote counts on another thread is something for the Removal Thread, not a different versus thread.
 
@GreyFang82

Garou has deflected attacks from opponents with blades before and has analytical prediction, superior reactive evolution and attack reflection. GG has never dealt with opponents with such abilities.
 
The thread reacted the proper vote count and grace passed, there is no reaons to not add it
 
KGiffoni said:
Didn't Andy say we shouldn't add it?
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Andy said so because of Gyro's vote, and Cal's vote. That was the subject of debate. Cal's vote undoubtably still counts; I am all for willing to debate the legitimacy of Gyro's vote, though Greyfang's additional input means that there's not much to say. If we say Gyro's vote counts, Greyfang's does too, which leaves Gildedmesh with a win anyways.
 
Oh, I see that you haven't learned that you shouldn't revert the edits if a conclusion hasn't been reached in the removal thread, Weekly.

You should learn to not do that at this point.
 
What are you talking about? Andy tried to remove it before a conclusion was reached, not me
 
I'm not going to act like reverting edits is fine- but neither is editting and removing it in the first place. If anything, Weekly is correct- if a verdict was not reached, it should not of been removed yet. Therefore, until a verdict is reached, it stays.

And in this case, a verdict has been reached.

Now, how about we stop debating edits and vote counts on a versus thread and we take it where it belongs?
 
A veridict hasn't been reached. The vote wasn't valid because the reasons for the vote were countered and thus rendered unvalid by common sense, since a vote without reasoning can't be counted.
 
You dont get to decide to just not include votes. Cal voted, his vote was to be counted.
 
Alright, let's not let this debate go circular. Let's use feats and undeniable evidence as a measure here. I'll start.

Has Gilded Guy dealt with techniques such as attack reflection, reactive evolution and analytical prediction before? If so, I ask when and who was it and can you link to the battle?

You can ask question about Garou as well.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
You dont get to decide to just not include votes. Cal voted, his vote was to be counted.
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I'll repeat what i've said again. The vote can't be counted because its reasoning was refuted, it now has no reasoning, and votes without reasoning can't, by the rules, be counted.
 
Except it was debated, and it was disproved. Gildedguy has plenty of reasons to win, just like Garou. Arguments claiming otherwise have been thouroughly negated and addressed. And this issue will never, ever be solved if people won't get on topic and address the real issue; Gyro's, and equally now Greyfang's, vote. Just because people disagree with your reasoning does not mean they are invalid.
 
Dienomite22 said:
Alright, let's not let this debate go circular. Let's use feats and undeniable evidence as a measure here. I'll start.
Has Gilded Guy dealt with techniques such as attack reflection, reactive evolution and analytical prediction before? If so, I ask when and who was it and can you link to the battle?

You can ask question about Garou as well.
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Let's just start over. ^This has not been address even in the other threads.
 
I want to remind people that I was ignored multiple times when I brought up the prospect of Garou's Analytical Prediction and Instinctive Reaction, just so GG could win.
 
Dienomite22 said:
Alright, let's not let this debate go circular. Let's use feats and undeniable evidence as a measure here. I'll start.

Has Gilded Guy dealt with techniques such as attack reflection, reactive evolution and analytical prediction before? If so, I ask when and who was it and can you link to the battle?

You can ask question about Garou as well.
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Could you show me a scan of attack reflection on a blade?

Analytical prediction on much less skilled foes is less impressive and will be less useful.

They both have adaption.
 
I'll repeat what i've said again. The vote can't be counted because its reasoning was refuted, it now has no reasoning, and votes without reasoning can't, by the rules, be counted.

Stop repeating this argument.

Every single time it's brought up, argument is had that leaves votes on both sides valid. Then you bring up this argument again.

It's a ******* circle and repeating it until the enemy gets tired and stops participating so you can say "Well they didn't counter, so I win!" is not a valid debate.

The argument is circular. I've been arguing for less than 3 hours and I've seen the same arguments for Garou, and the same counter arguments, no less than 4 times.
 
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
I want to remind people that I was ignored multiple times when I brought up the prospect of Garou's Analytical Prediction and Instinctive Reaction, just so GG could win.
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Similarly, my counterpoints to Analytical Prediction were ignored.
 
@Moritza https://readms.net/r/onepunch_man/088/4919/35

He used it on those superior to him in scale with superhuman advantages when he was considered human and far weaker. Plus, that Gilded Guy hasn't dealt with analytical prediction before.

True but Garou's is quantively far superior and he has dealt with opponents who get's stronger mid fight such as Gilded Guy.
 
I'm driving. Give me a moment for that scan, if you may.
 
Now can I get links to prove that Gilded Guy dealt with Analytical prediction, this level of reactive evolution and attack reflection?
 
Could you show me a scan of attack reflection on a blade?

This Attack reflection/ redirection on blades came before Garou fought Overgrown Rover, Orochi, Darkshine, and Golden Sperm and grew from them.

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One thing that should have been mentioned but I forgot is that GG doesn't use range that often and starts off with CQC 95% of the time
 
Basically, Garou has crazy RE, AR, IR, AP... GG has a sword, a 1.5x AP advantage and range. Garou has dealt with Danmaku and blade users before, it's nothing new to him.
 
You see? There are way more arguments for Garou than for GG. I vote Garou.
 
Dienomite22 said:
One thing that should have been mentioned but I forgot is that GG doesn't use range that often and starts off with CQC 95% of the time
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GG's ramge IS his cqc, his range is done with his sword, and he uses it regularly
 
KGiffoni said:
Basically, Garou has crazy RE, AR, IR, AP... GG has a sword, a 1.5x AP advantage and range. Garou has dealt with Danmaku and blade users before, it's nothing new to him.
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GG has crazy RE, higher dura and ap, bladed attacks, and better range
 
@WeeklyBattles

He uses his sword regularly but he almost never starts a fight with sword in it's extended form.
 
Already established GG's RE is inferior to Garou's, bladed attacks are nothing to AR+AP+IR and experience with them already, range is nothing when Garou gets fast enough to CQC him, etc.
 
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