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Utsuho vs goku (ssj blue)

How is this any different from the Marisa stomp? I mean yeah Utsuho being a youkai means she eventually regens from her mind, but it would take long enough that in SBA this counts as an incap win.
 
Dangeroustaco said:
How is this any different from the Marisa stomp? I mean yeah Utsuho being a youkai means she eventually regens from her mind, but it would take long enough that in SBA this counts as an incap win.
Utsuho with Nuclear Manipulation and being a far powerful opponent than Marisa could be. Not to mention that she is comparable to the likes of Suika.
 
NothingToDebateWith said:
Utsuho with Nuclear Manipulation and being a far powerful opponent than Suika could be.
Ah, so she's only liquified this time instead of being reduced to atoms. Seriously though, that nuclear manip better be something special otherwise Goku destroys her just as hard as he did Marisa.
 
Dangeroustaco said:
he's like hundreds to thousands of times above baseline
He's also somewhat comparable to a guy who at full power is on the level of characters who are halfway to 2-C. Yeah, this is a mismatch.
 
Planck69 said:
NothingToDebateWith said:
Utsuho with Nuclear Manipulation and being a far powerful opponent than Suika could be.
Ah, so she's only liquified this time instead of being reduced to atoms. Seriously though, that nuclear manip better be something special otherwise Goku destroys her just as hard as he did Marisa.
Utsuho is a birdbrained raven when it comes to things like common sense, but she is said to be highly intelligent when it comes to Nuclear Fusion and Fission (Since the more idiot she could be, she could have more power which she could use effectively).


I am not gonna tell that she could poise him by radiation since I know that he is resistant to both poison and radiation (naturally, they are fighting in the space where UV rays exist). But can he surpass her matter manipulation? I haven't seen a resistance against it, so...
 
If she's a Birdbrain, wouldn't she be heavily suceptible to Goku going "Hey wanna stop doing this senseless battle and just spar instead? If we fight the Universe might be in trouble"
 
NothingToDebateWith said:
Utsuho is a birdbrained raven when it comes to things like common sense, but she is said to be highly intelligent when it comes to Nuclear Fusion and Fission (Since the more idiot she could be, she could have more power which she could use effectively).


I am not gonna tell that she could poise him by radiation since I know that he is resistant to both poison and radiation (naturally, they are fighting in the space where UV rays exist). But can he surpass her matter manipulation? I haven't seen a resistance against it, so...
I mean, if she's that dumb a part of me thinks she'd try to punch him or something first but you know the character better than me so I can go with it.

He bypasses it.... by obliterating her with a casual KI blast? Unless she has really potent and fast acting matter-hax she gets destroyed the moment the fight begins.
 
Bummel said:
Her first move is probably spaming danmaku
To which Goku remarks that the weird blasts she's making are tickling him, after which he proceeds to knock her out with a chop to the neck or something.
 
Akreious said:
If she's a Birdbrain, wouldn't she be heavily suceptible to Goku going "Hey wanna stop doing this senseless battle and just spar instead? If we fight the Universe might be in trouble"
Yes, since she had no reason to be a Villain besides her desire to 'conquer the world'- xD
 
Bummel said:
Her first move is probably spaming danmaku
Under spellcards rule, you are right. But her starting might change if OP would change Utsuho to be bloodlusted -or basically telling that she doesn't play by the spellcard rules-.
 
NothingToDebateWith said:
Yes, since she had no reason to be a Villain besides her desire to 'conquer the world'- xD
The idea that they just show up to the battlefield only for this to happen would be hilarious.
 
Planck69 said:
NothingToDebateWith said:
Utsuho is a birdbrained raven when it comes to things like common sense, but she is said to be highly intelligent when it comes to Nuclear Fusion and Fission (Since the more idiot she could be, she could have more power which she could use effectively).


I am not gonna tell that she could poise him by radiation since I know that he is resistant to both poison and radiation (naturally, they are fighting in the space where UV rays exist). But can he surpass her matter manipulation? I haven't seen a resistance against it, so...
I mean, if she's that dumb a part of me thinks she'd try to punch him or something first but you know the character better than me so I can go with it.
He bypasses it.... by obliterating her with a casual KI blast? Unless she has really potent and fast acting matter-hax she gets destroyed the moment the fight begins.
I thought speed was equalized, though she usually starts with -nearly- omni-directional danmaku with small gaps. And I believe she is capable of using her matter/nuclear hax fast enough to create miniature stars in a matter of seconds.
 
NothingToDebateWith said:
I thought speed was equalized, though she usually starts with -nearly- omni-directional danmaku with small gaps. And I believe she is capable of using her matter/nuclear hax fast enough to create miniature stars in a matter of seconds.
>Implying that would hurt Goku

All Might laughing
 
I mean, I guess I'll vote inconclusive due to both agreeing that they shouldn't fight and them becoming friends? Is that a thing? They're still IC and Goku showed mercy and attempts of forgiveness for the equivalent of Space Hitler and Utsuho has literally no reason to try and kill Goku and would probably more benefit from Goku as an ally, especially with his happy personality and pretty rock solid argument of "Lets not blow everything up. We live here".
 
Akreious said:
I mean, I guess I'll vote inconclusive due to both agreeing that they shouldn't fight and them becoming friends? Is that a thing? They're still IC and Goku showed mercy and attempts of forgiveness for the equivalent of Space Hitler and Utsuho has literally no reason to try and kill Goku and would probably more benefit from Goku as an ally, especially with his happy personality and pretty rock solid argument of "Lets not blow everything up. We live here".
I can actually see that happening if she's as simple as the thread describes here. But would that be a win via talking her down or would that be inconclusive?
 
If goku can make utsuho concede via talking like that probably count as win for goku
 
To be fair, Goku is surprisingly charismatic. His general aura just makes people open up to him which is acknowledged in-verse.
 
Planck69 said:
NothingToDebateWith said:
I thought speed was equalized, though she usually starts with -nearly- omni-directional danmaku with small gaps. And I believe she is capable of using her matter/nuclear hax fast enough to create miniature stars in a matter of seconds.
>Implying that would hurt Goku
All Might laughing
Manipulating Nuclear Fusion is equal to manipulation of both strong and weak forces, two of the four fundamental forces in existence. I meant to tell that she could make his body's sub-atomic particles undergo a nuclear fusion and undermine his body from inside with the help of chain-reaction.


Though, Utsuho says 'Unyu?' against Goku's nice personality, so, they just go and be allies instead. My vote is to incon if not for Utsuho- xD
 
NothingToDebateWith said:
Manipulating Nuclear Fusion is equal to manipulation of both strong and weak forces, two of the four fundamental forces in existence. I meant to tell that she could make his body's sub-atomic particles undergo a nuclear fusion and dissolve him from inside.
Though, Utsuho says 'Unyu?' against Goku's nice personality and they just go and be allies instead, so my vote is to incon if not Utsuho- xD

Pretty sure Goku would just blast through her before that happens. Not to mention she would usually start with Danmaku. By the way, is that actually what she does with her nuclear manip in character or is it just rationalization? Because having an ability doesn't equate to making the best use of one.
 
Bummel said:
She use mini sun use danmaku, is that count as nuclear manip?
Yes, but it certainly doesn't ignore durabilty to any degree.
 
NothingToDebateWith said:
Utsuho is capable of creating mini-suns that's as powerful as the real one afaik.
>Laughs in Low 2-C durablity!!!
 
NothingToDebateWith said:
Nah, I just wanted to clarify that to them. And I believe Ki blasts may not work on Utsuho.
I don't see Non-Corporeal on her profile, why would Ki blasts not work?
 
Regenerationn (Low-Godly; can regenerate from her incorporeal "mind")


Goku can still hit her with ki blast but she will regenerate
 
Bummel said:
Regenerationn (Low-Godly; can regenerate from her incorporeal "mind")
Goku can still hit her with ki blast but she will regenerate
How long does Regenerationn take?
 
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