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Time to finally iron out the issues with our SMT and DeSu 2 Profiles, starting with this.
Observatio
We haven't done a very good job of categorizing Observation (odd, since it's been a thing since SMT II), so let's start with this.
"As described by Stephen, "observation" (sometimes described as "understanding") is the ability humans possess to give structure to the formless. In this instance, "observation" has nothing to do with sight, but rather human perception. It is an extension of the philosophical concept of "qualia," or individual, subjective experiences. For example, the sensation of seeing color is not easily communicated, yet something humanity possess a shared understanding of. Likewise, YHVH only exists because of this shared observation."
Essentially, usage of Observation is manipulating reality to match qualia, subjective experiences. While we already consider it Law hax, it should also be considered Subjective Reality for everyone who uses it, as reality is collectively shaped by humanity through qualia and manipulated by humans with strong will power in particularly.
The Nature of Qualia in SMT
While the philosophical definition is informative and accurate to SMT, we don't want to necessarily rely on it. As we know, Observation is explicitly derived/dependent on qualia, the nature of the individual subjective experience that can be communicated to humanity. The specifics of the qualia are found in this convo in DeSu 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdYfyvRmLWQ&list=PLOdDlDt7wGxfEatVEG4R64cS9TMcyTJQb&index=121 at 4:05
As Fumi puts it, while memory is unreliable, systems that are based around the subjectivity are also unreliable. This is because of the depth of memory in SMT, which extends beyond simply being a record of something like a video or picture, but a type of neutral monism in between the properties of duality. Likewise, the entirety of the qualia is essentially the soul. When the Akashic Record does things to memory, qualia itself is utterly replaced, and what the Akashic Record stores is the information that makes up these concepts, which is why in order to store these memories permanently Fumi has to find a way to conceptualize the memories in a manner that can be stored on the Akashic Record even if she does succeed. The Akashic Record manipulates and essentially has total control over Qualia. Additionally, the subjectivity of reality being unreliable due to the Akashic Record is supported by the cosmology change in DeSu 2 with the Stars, and the lack of influence of YHVH and the scarcity of true demons (as there is some implication that the majority of the demons in the game are false versions of the demons in the other SMT multiverses, or as some have put it, "stand demons"), since Observation is what creates demons and is responsible for YHVH's Covenant.
Transduality and the nature of the Stars
As stated above, Qualia is a non-dual neutral monism, whose concept's information is manipulated by the Akashic Record. However, the Stars are constantly able to manipulate this data, directly even. There is a reason for this.
https://youtu.be/0oigoqJCxWg?t=176
Essentially, the data as a form of monism not only exists above the properties of duality but pluralism as well. They exist as both non-corporeal information which exist independently of the space and time of reality and corporeal forms in the physical world simultaneously with both being simply manifestations of themselves, which is consistent with them being capable of permanent destruction of data in a manner that the record cannot reproduce, as well as Arcturus destruction of the entirety of the party's memories/qualia of the second world regression.
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While a few others may have a few other suggestions additions, this is the basic additions that need to be added.
Subjective Reality for Observation users.
Scaling the potency of the Akashic Record to Observation due to it's complete domination of Qualia
Transduality (Type 1 Most likely) for the Memories/experiences/feelings and Souls of humans in SMT, due to their qualia being transdual
Transduality (Type 1), Abstract Existence (Type 1 or possibly 2), and Immortality Type 9 for Stars.
Removal of all abilities scaled from the Akashic Record from most demons. Even ignoring everything else, it's not reasonable to scale them to things that are explicitly exclusive to the Dragon Stream and Stars.
The 1-A upgrades come later
Observatio
We haven't done a very good job of categorizing Observation (odd, since it's been a thing since SMT II), so let's start with this.
"As described by Stephen, "observation" (sometimes described as "understanding") is the ability humans possess to give structure to the formless. In this instance, "observation" has nothing to do with sight, but rather human perception. It is an extension of the philosophical concept of "qualia," or individual, subjective experiences. For example, the sensation of seeing color is not easily communicated, yet something humanity possess a shared understanding of. Likewise, YHVH only exists because of this shared observation."
Essentially, usage of Observation is manipulating reality to match qualia, subjective experiences. While we already consider it Law hax, it should also be considered Subjective Reality for everyone who uses it, as reality is collectively shaped by humanity through qualia and manipulated by humans with strong will power in particularly.
The Nature of Qualia in SMT
While the philosophical definition is informative and accurate to SMT, we don't want to necessarily rely on it. As we know, Observation is explicitly derived/dependent on qualia, the nature of the individual subjective experience that can be communicated to humanity. The specifics of the qualia are found in this convo in DeSu 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdYfyvRmLWQ&list=PLOdDlDt7wGxfEatVEG4R64cS9TMcyTJQb&index=121 at 4:05
As Fumi puts it, while memory is unreliable, systems that are based around the subjectivity are also unreliable. This is because of the depth of memory in SMT, which extends beyond simply being a record of something like a video or picture, but a type of neutral monism in between the properties of duality. Likewise, the entirety of the qualia is essentially the soul. When the Akashic Record does things to memory, qualia itself is utterly replaced, and what the Akashic Record stores is the information that makes up these concepts, which is why in order to store these memories permanently Fumi has to find a way to conceptualize the memories in a manner that can be stored on the Akashic Record even if she does succeed. The Akashic Record manipulates and essentially has total control over Qualia. Additionally, the subjectivity of reality being unreliable due to the Akashic Record is supported by the cosmology change in DeSu 2 with the Stars, and the lack of influence of YHVH and the scarcity of true demons (as there is some implication that the majority of the demons in the game are false versions of the demons in the other SMT multiverses, or as some have put it, "stand demons"), since Observation is what creates demons and is responsible for YHVH's Covenant.
Transduality and the nature of the Stars
As stated above, Qualia is a non-dual neutral monism, whose concept's information is manipulated by the Akashic Record. However, the Stars are constantly able to manipulate this data, directly even. There is a reason for this.
https://youtu.be/0oigoqJCxWg?t=176
Essentially, the data as a form of monism not only exists above the properties of duality but pluralism as well. They exist as both non-corporeal information which exist independently of the space and time of reality and corporeal forms in the physical world simultaneously with both being simply manifestations of themselves, which is consistent with them being capable of permanent destruction of data in a manner that the record cannot reproduce, as well as Arcturus destruction of the entirety of the party's memories/qualia of the second world regression.
TL
RWhile a few others may have a few other suggestions additions, this is the basic additions that need to be added.
Subjective Reality for Observation users.
Scaling the potency of the Akashic Record to Observation due to it's complete domination of Qualia
Transduality (Type 1 Most likely) for the Memories/experiences/feelings and Souls of humans in SMT, due to their qualia being transdual
Transduality (Type 1), Abstract Existence (Type 1 or possibly 2), and Immortality Type 9 for Stars.
Removal of all abilities scaled from the Akashic Record from most demons. Even ignoring everything else, it's not reasonable to scale them to things that are explicitly exclusive to the Dragon Stream and Stars.
