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I guess, since their physical and data selves are considered equal parts of their trans-pluralistic selves, I would say this should scale to AP.
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SMT Stuff: Observation and Qualia
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^^ It doesn't scaled to AP since Transduality is just state of existence/being.
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There's more to this revision than just Transduality. What we want to figure out is if the Akashic Record scales to AP for anyone.
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I think it should scale to the stars, since their information forms can damage it and their physical forms seem to be equal/the same due to their trans-pluralistic nature. So their AP should match their data manip.
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I thought we already scaled it since characters like Polaris and Anguished One can reset the infinite multiverse with it.The Divine Phoenix said:
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I thought we already scaled it since characters like Polaris and Anguished One can reset the infinite multiverse with it.
No, iirc they have their own feats, but even if we do, I'm iffy on scaling people to the entirety of the Akashic Record.
No, iirc they have their own feats, but even if we do, I'm iffy on scaling people to the entirety of the Akashic Record.
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Wait we scale AP off the Akashic Record? Like using the Astrolabe?
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Yeah. Everyone who utilizes the Akashic Record is already 2-A by being on the scaling chain. It dosen't give the user any particular power. It just gives them the natural reality bending hax demons already have. But if this goes through whose going to be able to use these "9-D passives?"
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I phrased that wrong. Whose going to have information manipulation or whatever on a 9-D scale? I personally find that idea to be quite iffy
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Cause of the concept of qualia and stuff right? I mean then 9-D hax would scale to alot of demons. Like Kagu
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I don't believe it would. The reason the Akashic Record users get that is because of the mechanics of the Record itself, which no one else in the series has been shown using, so it would at best apply to all of them.
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I mean beings like Kagu are beyond vastly superior to Administrators and should be capable of utilizing said info manip if they have the same hax. If not on even better level
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I mean like the scaling chain. Kagutsuchi is literally stronger than Polaris by at least a countless number of times at the minimum. And you mean scale to the Astrolabe?
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Well then what would the administrators scale to?
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You said if the administrators scale they would be stronger than Kagutsuchi. I'm asking what in specific they would scale to
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I disagree with it only scaling to info manip. It would be the AP if their information forms, since those are directly harming the records, and based on what Fumi said, their physical forms are the representations of that same damage, thus they should scale dimensionally to whatever the damage to the Akashi records is.
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The Akashic Records are just finite 4-D
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This thread has established that that is in fact, not the case.
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Fine. It just feels iffy to me is all. But scaling Akashic Record to AP is viable?
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Wait, if the Akashic Records are apparently 9-D or something and it scales to the admins which scales to YHVH would that mean YHVH would be comparable to his true form...?
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Yeah. We used to scale it, which didn't make sense as it would result in issues like that. Demons shouldn't gain the powers of the Akashic Record via scaling in any case, as I've already stated, the issue comes from the destruction of data by the Stars, not the Akashic Record. YHVH also shouldn't scale to anyone in DeSu 2, as there are no real comparisons of power between him and anyone else in it.Yvel Atsly said:
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What was the original reason for scaling demon powers to Admin powers?
