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the super soldier vs the strongest soldier (grace over)

Bob8999

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the hero of world war ll, captain america (mcu)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Captain_America_(Marvel_Cinematic_Universe)

vs

the warrior captain, base gazeff stronoff (overlord)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gazef_Stronoff#Gazef Stronoff

who would win in a one on one fight to the death.

(both 8-C, speed is equal, cap is given a sword to make up for his lack of a sheild, base gazef (does not have the kingdoms treasures))

cap: 0

gazef: 7 (The pen or the sword, LSirLancelotDuLacl, FDrybob, Ionliosite, Moritzva, AnonymousBlank, DeathNoodles.)

tie/incon: 0
 
which cap then blocks.

also ¨The winner will be determined by the side having better constructive arguments, rather than one word/one sentence votes, which will be disregarded (this is in the versus thread rules so simply saying a name or declaring a victor with no backing argument will not count as a vote.)¨
 
gazef ignores durability due to razor edge being so sharp that it can cut through steel like paper, its not like a soul cutting attack it is block/dodgeable. on top of that I never said that gazef had the kingdoms treasures.
 
well then to make this a little fairer (hopefully) the kingdoms treasures are restrited sorry for any confusion.
 
Razor Edge moves through Cap and shield like they were cheese. RE was able toa harm Ainz despite him being millions of times stronger and even negating stuff far above RE's tier but it was still able to harm and possibly kill Ainz.

Cap blocks and dies.

If this is base Gazef, he just spams his amps and outmaneuvers Cap regardless. Cap aint winning here.
 
Even with base Gazef, all he has to do is catch Cap off guard with martial arts and he wins. Speed amps + instant counter would probably be too much for Cap to handle without knowing ahead of time. Cap is definitely more skilled, but doesn't really have any powers to give him an edge here.
 
AnonymousBlank said:
Were they dura neg? No? Guess Gazef swings ftw.
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Durability negation without any specific explanation or reasoning behind it is only assumed to Dura beg against whatever it has shown it can.

Gazef stops at 7B, so Cap blocks.
 
??? Ainz had multiple passives that would have negged RE and it still worked regardless. What is even the point of dura neg for non hax attacks/techs if it stops at whatever tier it has worked on? Just call it X tier if the character is just going to be restricted to that anyway.

Either way, Gazef butchers via superior everything except for maybe skill which is still overcome by martial arts.
 
Schnee One said:
AnonymousBlank said:
Were they dura neg? No? Guess Gazef swings ftw.
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Durability negation without any specific explanation or reasoning behind it is only assumed to Dura beg against whatever it has shown it can.
Gazef stops at 7B, so Cap blocks.
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Gazef's blade could harm Ainz and could eventually kill him if he stood there and let it happen. Ainz's special skills such as Magic and Physical Nullifications didn't work on the blade. So if his blade is able to ignore special properties of beings (Magic and Skills alike), why wouldn't it ignore properties of shields and matter and such? Especially since Vibranium Shield's vibration absorption properties are significantly less exotic than Ainz's protections.
 
Ainz has 7B Durability

Unless you honestly want to tell me Gaxef can one shot SSG Goku, any semblance of Gazef one shotting literally everything through Dura negation is an NLF, and if you disagree you make a CRT because that's what's accepted
 
Im leaning on gazef ignoring the dura neg (he doesn't have now check the op, using base key) He still has a large edge in martial arts that cap isn't prepared for. So I see cap deflecting/blocking the first attacks, gazef gets serious and uses his martial arts to increase his physical prowess and the sudden shift in fighting strength surpises cap enough to let gazef get the win. Note this is a close fight, but caps main advantage is experience where his opponent has amps, the ability to spot weaknesses and other abilities cap isn't ready for.

(I didn't see a mention of that on the durability negation page so there should be a note their to avoid this kind of confusion)
 
You guys are ignoring the fact that Gazef doesn't have access to the Kingdom's treasures here, so he doesn't have durability negation.
 
I acknowledge it! Saying that I still see gazef winning, cap isn't prepared for gazefs martial arts and caps main advantage is experience. Its a close fight I just see gazef pulling off the win more often.
 
Agreed. Cap has no way to anticipate Gazef's abilities, and Gazef's Sense Weakness martial art will probably tell him as much. Voting for Gazef.
 
ok, i´ve counted the votes if i missed something/someone tell me. but be sure to make your votes very clear.
 
FDrybob said:
Agreed. Cap has no way to anticipate Gazef's abilities, and Gazef's Sense Weakness martial art will probably tell him as much.
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Im pretty sure this counts

edit fdrybob is agreeing with my vote
 
My first post voted for Gazef regardless of having the treasures as Martial Arts gives him a huge advantage over Cap.
 
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