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Ichigo Vs Raven (teen titans)

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Naeblis495 said:
i don't see soul manip resistance on raven's profile so : reiatsu crush GG
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Wouldn't you resist it if you have a stronger soul or spirit? Than the person
 
Politebunny7 said:
Naeblis495 said:
i don't see soul manip resistance on raven's profile so : reiatsu crush GG
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Wouldn't you resist it if you have a stronger soul or spirit? Than the person
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You need resistance to soul manip to counter

Raven doesnt have that, so she gets passively crushed
 
Wouldn't you resist it if you have a stronger soul or spirit? Than the person


Even if that person spirit/ soul stronger than ichigo he can spiritual crush Them? Can I see scans of people in bleach where someone was able to spiritual crush someone that was stronger than them or had stronger spiritual energy and was able to crush

You need resistance to soul manip to counter

Raven doesnt have that, so she gets passively crushed
 
Reiatsu crush is hella overrated, shit even gets stopped by regular humans. and keeping distance which by SBA is 4 kilometres is more than enough for fodder Ichigo to get his ass whacked. Even Aizen's reaitsu crush worked mostly in close proximity.

2010 called, they want their whack argument back
 
Aizen's reaitsu crush literally did nothing to that woman and that black man, (I forgot their names)
 
You mean Don Kanonj and Tatsuki?

All of Ichigo's friends aren't just "regular people". Their souls have been strengthened by Ichigo's immense Reiatsu being constantly released because of his own lack of self-control.

A Shinigami Reiatsu can affect the real world in a variety of ways and that's why Captains and Lieutenants have limiters when they come to the real world. So that their Reiatsu's don't manipuate the Living World.

All of Ichigo's friends have the ability to see souls and resist soul manipulation.

Tatsuki was able to resist having her soul ripped out by Yammy who was instantly sucking out the soul of hundreds of people around Tatsuki.


Saying that they are "regular people" is completely disingenuous. Have you seen, Bleach?
 
That's pretty nice and all, but doesn't help when starting distance is 4 Kilometres
 
Konaguna said:
That's pretty nice and all, but doesn't help when starting distance is 4 Kilometres
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That doesn't mean anything, Ichigo has Reiatsu comparable if not superior to Yhwach, who can affect all three planets in Bleach with his Reiatsu. And Ichigo was being argued to be a candidate for the Soul King - meaning he would have to have his Reiatsu reach all three worlds himself.

So a few kilometers shouldn't be anything that tough, I'd gather.


But the important thing here is for you to stop spreading falsities about the series, please. Stuff like that gets parroted until misinformation is considered fact.
 
A weaker Ichigo was stated to have his reiatsu reach across the planet if it wasn't kept in check while Epilogue Ichigo is so far above Yama that it isn't funny, definitely scales to the 20 km reiatsu range during the FKT arc when people weren't even trying crushed Hollows in the next city. This 4km argument is terrible.
 
Konaguna said:
Aizen's reaitsu crush literally did nothing to that woman and that black man, (I forgot their names)
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This stupid statement again, how many times ppl will missed when Aizen himself said that he purposed holding back his reiatsu? Isshin an captain level shinigami cant sense reiatsu from weaker aizen, yet Tatsuki can somehow sense reiatsu from stronger aizen, 10/10 Aizen deff showing her his full power

>4KM

Did u miss when espada and gotei 13 reiatsu crush hollow from 13 miles away?
 
Since when did Ichigo ever use reaitsu crush passively? He's walked around regular humans with no consequences. A lot of people would have died on earth if it was a passive ability. It's something he actively has to use and he never does.
 
I have seen Bleach and I've seen many fights on Earth with no shown consequences on humans kilometres away. Or when a shinigami is on Earth why aren't people dying left right and center.
 
Are you talking about Ichigo in his human form or in his soul form? Cuz even in his human form, his reiatsu was enough to confuse Rukia's 6th sense and even affect her other senses like hearing. All the humans he interacts with he has been doing so for years and was explicitly noted to have strengthened their souls as a result.

Soul crush isn't passive for anyone but pre Muken Kenny and pre TS Ichigo, The reason it is treated as passive in fights is because it essentially is since all souls flex their reiatsu in preparaion for the fight which screws over everyone who isnt strong enough. People with enough control can also use their own reiatsu to protect others from someone's soul crush or target specific people.
 
EmperorRorepme said:
I have seen Bleach and I've seen many fights on Earth with no shown consequences on humans kilometres away. Or when a shinigami is on Earth why aren't people dying left right and center.
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Because the entire planet has soul resistance that would make Blazblue jealous.
 
@Anon I'm saying just any human whether near or far from a fight they aren't crushed passively. So it has to be an active ability if you're talking kilometres wise. Even within range they still have to use reaitsu.
 
What are you doing in here? Aren't u a staff member or I missing smt?

Nah man I'm just preaching the gospel of the true power of Reiatsu. Completely unstoppable. No hyperbole.
 
EmperorRorepme said:
Since when did Ichigo ever use reaitsu crush passively? He's walked around regular humans with no consequences. A lot of people would have died on earth if it was a passive ability. It's something he actively has to use and he never does.
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This. I've said this before and i'll say it again. Reiatsu crush is not passive for anyone in bleach who isn't named Kenpachi and Pre TS Ichigo like Anonymous said.

And honestly, I don't believe in Reiatsu crush being an insta kill unless the AP difference between the reiatsu user and the opponent is dramatically big. That said, what does Raven scale to again?
 
EmperorRorepme said:
@Anon I'm saying just any human whether near or far from a fight they aren't crushed passively. So it has to be an active ability if you're talking kilometres wise. Even within range they still have to use reaitsu.
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It all come to their Reiatsu control, stark passively kill hollow by doing nothing, yammy almost killed tatsuki with his Reiatsu and he didn't even realized this up till Ulquiorra told him, or when Yama reiatsu crust Nanao when he about to fights Kyōraku and Ukitake, Aizen pretty much have passive Reiatsu shield around him in his Transcendent form, and this is Aizen when he severely holding back his power, or when Gotei 13 and Espada passively kill hollow miles away.

You know even the size of their zanpakuto is come from their control, if they dont then captain level zanpakuto will be as big as a skyscraper, this is why BoS Ichigo have big ass sword and somewhat reiatsu crust rukia when at that point Ichigo literally don't know anything about Reiatsu.
 
AnonymousBlank said:
AP doesn't matter for reiatsu crush, just soul manip resist.
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Im saying it should matter in the aspect of actually killing the opponent I meant, not just damaging the soul.

Like when Aizen completely vaporized a regular human from Karakura.
 
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