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Housten, we have a problem

Hagane_no_Saiyajin

Hagane_no_Saiyajin

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I was looking over the High 7-A bomb feat and...

IT DOES NOT HAPPEN IN OCARINA OF TIME!!!

Therefore it should not exactly count as a feat for scaling Link's durability.

The real bomb feat
Although this bomb feat is more legitamate since it happened within the game. And I would think that this would make child Link 8-C possibly.
Although I am not going to disragard the bomb feat in Phantom Hourglass, but I may say that it happened a couple of centuries after Ocarina giving the bomb maker plenty of time to make the bombs stronger.
 
So what, if anything, needs to be changed?
 
Nothing changes. Bomb technology has stagnated throughout the years given what we see. All bombs are based off the bomb flower, up until BOTW.
 
Okay. Thanks. Should we close this thread then?
 
Although is child like going to be 8-A now? I mean, I said that the bomb feat did not happen in Ocarina so it should not be applied
 
The bombs in Ocarina of Time are just as strong as the bombs in Phantom Hourglass. Bombs don't get stronger thoughout the series as Cal already said, just because the specific High 7-A feat didn't happen in this game doesn't somehow mean we can't scale these bombs to feats done by bombs later on.
 
Because bombs are 100% identical in all games, using the bomb flower as a basis to build them. They almost never tried to make them stronger (BOTW bomb and giant bombs of any kind are the only exception).
 
Is there anything left to do here, or should I close this thread?
 
I can try to make a case and point to why the bombs are not exactly High 7-A by looking at the feat itself:

The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time 100% Walkthrough (Full Game)
The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time 100% Walkthrough (Full Game)

when it happened the bomb didn't vaporize the boulder but fragmented it, if the bombs were really High 7-A the entire mountain would have been blow up with it and made the entire quest sooo much easier. Sure there might be a meteor shower onto to Hyrule but at least Link gets to King Dodongo easier, right?

Also about King Dodongo, that profile page that say Link carved him up is false!! He just simply threw bombs into his mouth, which is similar to Luke blowing up the Deathstar.

Now for the High 7-A of the bombs I probably can now say that it is an outlier put in for plot reasons although bombs don't really melt ice and it didn't appear for the feat that the ice was melting. Although I like to hear everyone's opinion about this.
 
Hagane no Saiyajin said:
I can try to make a case and point to why the bombs are not exactly High 7-A by looking at the feat itself:
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when it happened the bomb didn't vaporize the boulder but fragmented it, if the bombs were really High 7-A the entire mountain would have been blow up with it and made the entire quest sooo much easier. Sure there might be a meteor shower onto to Hyrule but at least Link gets to King Dodongo easier, right?

Also about King Dodongo, that profile page that say Link carved him up is false!! He just simply threw bombs into his mouth, which is similar to Luke blowing up the Deathstar.

Now for the High 7-A of the bombs I probably can now say that it is an outlier put in for plot reasons although bombs don't really melt ice and it didn't appear for the feat that the ice was melting. Although I like to hear everyone's opinion about this.
 
@Ant

Hagane made a refute to the bomb flowers being the same strength and cal and triforce haven't refuted it yet.

So basically waiting for that.
 
If you need comments from Cal and Triforce, feel free to ask them via their message walls.
 
Also some refute for some stuff

"when it happened the bomb didn't vaporize the boulder but fragmented it, if the bombs were really High 7-A the entire mountain would have been blow up with it and made the entire quest sooo much easier. Sure there might be a meteor shower onto to Hyrule but at least Link gets to King Dodongo easier, right?"

>In-game the master sword bounces off the same said boulders, implying it can't break them, despite being a High 6-A item. Also why would he blow up the entirety of Death Mountain when that's the Gorons home? That makes no sense from a narrative perspective.

"Also about King Dodongo, that profile page that say Link carved him up is false!! He just simply threw bombs into his mouth, which is similar to Luke blowing up the Deathstar."

>Actually, he threw bombs into his mouth, but that's not enough to kill King Dodongo, he needs to afterwards physically harm him with his own weapons . So he still does harm King Dodongo and would scale to his dura, unlike where Luke shows no signs of physically harming the Death Star itself.

"Now for the High 7-A of the bombs I probably can now say that it is an outlier put in for plot reasons although bombs don't really melt ice and it didn't appear for the feat that the ice was melting. Although I like to hear everyone's opinion about this."

>I don't really see how it's an outlier, nothing contradicts it that isn't gameplay mechanics, and again if we're going to use that, Master Sword is now 9-C since it bounces off walls.
 
Lgamer099 99 said:
I was thinking... aren't bombs stronger in Phantom Hourglass because they are thrown from the cannon?
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I don't think being flung from a canon will really change the power of the explosive itself, only the power of the bomb hitting something, which would probs be due to it's size like, 9-B or 9-A. It's like shooting a grenande out of a canon vs. throwing it, the explosive of the grenade isn't suddenly stronger.
 
Isn't Phantom Hourglass after OOT on the timeline? Couldn't they just have, I don't know, made stronger bombs in the time between? Especially given that as pointed out earlier, OOT bombs can't blow up mountains.

Also, we don't have a calc for high 6-A Master Sword. Hell, actually, I'd like to dispute 6-A MS. It scales to Ghirahim, who scales to Faron, whose 6-A feat is entirely environmental. No reason it should scale to anything.

I know this is an old thread, but this seriously needs to be resolved.
 
You can ask Cal to comment here again if you wish.
 
Nemo212 said:
Isn't Phantom Hourglass after OOT on the timeline? Couldn't they just have, I don't know, made stronger bombs in the time between? Especially given that as pointed out earlier, OOT bombs can't blow up mountains.

Also, we don't have a calc for high 6-A Master Sword. Hell, actually, I'd like to dispute 6-A MS. It scales to Ghirahim, who scales to Faron, whose 6-A feat is entirely environmental. No reason it should scale to anything.

I know this is an old thread, but this seriously needs to be resolved.
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I agree, even Levias' feat is environmental, so...
 
Nemo212 said:
Isn't Phantom Hourglass after OOT on the timeline? Couldn't they just have, I don't know, made stronger bombs in the time between? Especially given that as pointed out earlier, OOT bombs can't blow up mountains.

Also, we don't have a calc for high 6-A Master Sword. Hell, actually, I'd like to dispute 6-A MS. It scales to Ghirahim, who scales to Faron, whose 6-A feat is entirely environmental. No reason it should scale to anything.

I know this is an old thread, but this seriously needs to be resolved.
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Bump.
 
Cal already brought the Power Bombs. The technology of their bombs hasn't exactly improved that much. The Bombs aren't actually constructed bombs, they all come from these magical plants called Bomb Flowers. And those Bomb flowers are Tier 7 all the way. Cal also mentioned they have their own High 7-C feats, so the High 7-A ratings are consistent.

As for Faron. It's not ED. Actually, looking at the blog, she uses telekinesis to move the water from one place to another. So her Magic/telekinesis would be 6-A in general. And it's not like she was strong enough to simply flatten Ghirahim with her telekinesis when she's clearly quite powerful compared to a bunch of minions. So 6-A Ghirahim and weakened Master Sword seems legit to me.
 
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