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Digimon Revision Project Section 3

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No more blue balling. No more side Digimon threads. No more obliterating that revision boner. We've finally made it to the big one. The Tiering Revisions of the Top and God Tiers.

Scaling was detailed in this blog.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...gimon_Feats_and_Power_Scaling_at_Cosmic_Level

Blog on Scaling and Physiology.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...EXPLANATORY_BLOG:_DATA_AND_DIGIMON_PHYSIOLOGY

Discussion on the Layers of the Digital World Hierarchy and Higher Dimensions found here.

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3061156

That thread has links to the other important blogs.

Big Thanks to Executor N0 for spending months writing blogs and gathering sources for this revision. The guy is a stallion. I would also like to thank MugenRyu, Sixo Bullets and all those who participated in the thread I linked above.

With all that out of the way, let's begin.

Hierarchy Dimensions
So this was the current accepted Multiverse size.

Physical World = 4-D

Digital World = 5-D

Several (Accepted as at least 3) = 8-D

World of the Holy Beasts = 9-D

Yggdrasil's Realm (Kernel) = 10-D

World of the Eaters = 11-D

Other Works of God and God itself = Unknown (Higher than the World of the Eaters, but unknown how many are there. Plus, pretty irrelevant to the revision at hand so don't worry about it right now)

God Tier
The God Tiers of the verse who fit within the 10-D of High 1-C spectrum are the ones who scale to the likes of Yggdrasil or are even above her. Yggdrasil itself can destroy and reform her own realm with a thought. The ones who scale are follows;

Yggdrasil

Cyber Sleuth and Hacker's Memory Cast

VictoryGreymo and ZeedGarurumo

Shoutmon X7F Superior Mode and DarknessBagramo

Voltbautamo/Malevolent Fist

N.E.O (Digimon NEXT)

True Seven Great Demon Lords

Omegamo's All Delete

Xros Wars Unsealed Zeed

However, there is one outlier (not that outlier) here. Mother Eater. As of now, Mother Eater is the series current Ultimate God Tier for one reason. It is capable of creating a realm beyond even the likes of Yggdrasil's Realm.

As such Mother Eater would be rated as 11-D and not 10-D.

So God Tiers are all rated High 1-C.

Top Tiers
This is the update to most of the 2-A characters. As you know, the scaling has been streamlined overall and the main feats here involve the 4 Holy Beasts, Megidramon, The Royal Knights and The Seven Great Demon Lords. These feats would hit 9-D or 1-C.

Those who scale are;

The 4 Holy Beasts

Dark Masters

WarGreymo and MetalGarurumo with the Power of Daakness (Darkness)

Three Great Angels

Corrupted Great Angels

4 Great Dragons

Royal Knights

Olympos Xll

Susanoomo

Ordinemo

Rasielmo

Mastemo

Seven Great Demon Lord Avatars

GranDracmo

Digimon World: DS cast

End Game Sayo and Koh (they get a "possibly")

Tamers, Savers and Frontier Cast (minus like most main characters)

BANTYO

Mille line

Tactimo

Plutomo and Titamo

OmegaShoutmo

The Top tiers would end up as 1-C.

High Tiers
These characters do not scale to the above but still have feats of "destroying the Digital World". In these cases, they are simply High 2-A.

These guys are;

Diaboromo

Dawn/Dusk Cast

Next 0rder Cast

Clockmo

RustTyrannomo

These guys will be High 2-A as stated above.

New Abilities
So with this revision comes new abilities for the Digimon. These abilities are copied directly from the blog with the reasonings attached.

Mind and Soul Prowess
The Mind and Soul Prowess gets a buff due to the higher dimensional nature of the Digimon. They are by essence 5-Dimensional Beings. They aren't High 2-A by power, but are 5-Dimensional in terms of their metaphysical nature. Digimon are able to harm the minds and souls of each other and thus their prowess should get a buff to accomodate this. However, Ex may need to go into more detail.

Conclusion
God Tiers: High 1-C

Top Tiers: 1-C

High Tiers: High 2-A

This is all.
 
I doesn't. The layers are all similar to the likes of the Eater's layer in which are directly noted to be dimensions that are above even the Digital World that not even Yggdrasil can fully comprehend and has been accepted as a higher dimension. The Layers are the same nature as that. Along with the fact that they Neoplatonic Cosmology.
 
Finally! The true upgrade Digimon always deserve!

I agree with Digimon>SMT

The rivalry is finally tryely over

And Saint Seiya pulls up the rear.
 
I read the OP and linked blogs and thread. I think the OP is solid so I agree with the OP
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
I doesn't. The layers are all similar to the likes of the Eater's layer in which are directly noted to be dimensions that are above even the Digital World that not even Yggdrasil can fully comprehend and has been accepted as a higher dimension. The Layers are the same nature as that. Along with the fact that they Neoplatonic Cosmology.
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the eater world is directly cited as a higher dimension, and digimon generally cites such things as "super-spacetime" and "hyper dimension" to refer to a higher dimension (although hyper dimension is also used to refer to the digital world ). And it does not make much sense to be dimensional because in Digimon Savers the Digital world would be destroyed if it collided with the Earth, so Yggdrasil had to send all his Royal Knights to destroy Earth (city by city and not planet itself).

And in Digimon Xros war Bagramon had to merge with another Digimon and still merge with the D5 just to be able to destroy Earth in the long run (detail: he attacked the Earth directly from the digital world).
 
This would be an inconsistency compared to the rest of the Digimon franchise. Not to mention beings like the Royal Knights and Yggdrasil have countless Multiversal feats. Which by the cosmology blog and what was accepted in that thread, Higher Dimensional feats. We detailed all of this in our blogs. And guess what, having a verse of Multiversal+ entities doesn't mean they will always just bust the multiverse. Where's your counter for Cyber Sleuth, Tamers and the other feats? Have you read our blogs? Also, a quote from Savers btw.

"If the world is falling, why not go to the other side of the earth?"

"Thinking in three dimensions no longer makes sense, with the destruction of the dimensional barrier this has become a super-dimensional catastrophe""

More than the planet was in danger here.

Also regarding the Eaters. I feel the need to post this from Ex;

"First let's establish how the Eaters manifest themselves in our world. Eaters impact Digital Waves, when a large amount of Digital Waves are concentrated in a region, Digital Shift occurs where the Eaters manifest in our dimension. In normal conditions when the Eaters manifest in our world, they appear exactly as "energy spheres" and are placed as the explanation for supernatural phenomena.

This is the same as with the Digimon. For Digimon to manifest in our world, the laws must be broken, the structure of the "Physical" must change to the "Digital", this occurs in distortions where the worlds connect.

And of course, when a Digimon manifests itself in smaller states in the Real World, what happens? The same kinds of supernatural events that occur when the Eaters manifest. The quotes about that are in one of my previous comments.

Of course, when this occurs there needs to be many concentrations of Digital Wavers, which is the name of the energy flowing from the digital worlds and can also flow into the Real World (It's talking about "digital" in the sense of digital structure, the World of Eaters is also Digital, the Network is also Digital, the Digital World is... well digital. All these worlds are "digital", but they existis in a different level).

The whole story in Cyber Sleuth has the idea of evolution. Suedo wanted to evolve the Real World to something bigger, and for that he fused the Digital World and Real World , to give our world the same possibilities as the Digital World. And when that was not enough, he would seek to evolve even more with the power of the Eaters.

They are both parts of the same hierarchy, have been shown to function in the same way, use the same concepts to express themselves and explain how they work, were compared directly to degrees of superiority, and the only difference between them is that the World of Eaters is called a " higher dimension "while the" Digital World "has never been called this, although it is established in the same way as the whole World Hierarchy as well."

I have linked the blogs with the multitudes of feats by the way so feel free to read those.

The one you need to read it this one.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Executor_N0/DIGIMON_COSMOLOGY:_WORLD_HIERARCHY

and this one

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...gimon_Feats_and_Power_Scaling_at_Cosmic_Level
 
<I have knowledge of these blogs before they even get to this wiki

Not is not even physically possible...
 
Schnee One said:
<I have knowledge of these blogs before they even get to this wiki
Not is not even physically possible...
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That comment is even more BS as from Ex's own mouth as I asked him if he did post his blogs anywhere before the site. He said this;

"No. In the past I was posting some things in facebook communities, but I stopped doing that for almost a year. Currently anyone who wants to read anything I write, the source is solely the Wikia. However, recently a Spanish channel on Youtube has started using my blogs as the basis for their videos, it's like a way of spreading what I write, it's not official, but it's also good for more people to know what I know."

Meaning this guy/girl has not even touched his recent blogs and is lying through his/her teeth. Unless he hacked Ex's Gmail account lol.
 
>Eniac dimensions

What? We have said nothing about Eniac dimensions.

Dude...that is soooo old. You have not touched the recent blogs at all with the new information.
 
Also regarding that blog you just posted. Here's what Ex has to say (he can't make a detailed comment right now due to college work)

"This blog is VERY old

And that it's written for a completely different audience totally based on a system ... which I myself developed for the I.G Wikia"
 
Well, I warned you, I know the more time ....

And no, no new information is actually missing, such as this map (translat) on the layers that show that the layers are "below" the real world
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Not only that but also says that the layers refer to the layers of the OSI model https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model
 
I understand, they are erasing my comments with my arguments, this is very honest and democratic, ok I will not comment any more here.
 
I can still read them regardless. Just check the contributions. But even then, you have still not addressed the new blogs. At all. Your evidence is a blog from years ago. No new ones with new information.
 
"There is no "countless feats" most are PS over PS having few or almost no concrete feats, and this still does not indicate which layers refers to dimensions, what you said only suggests that the characters need to be rewritten or dimensioned for certain worlds and layers would be the means to that."

What? No, the sources I posted along with the blogs prove higher dimensions. We have provided the evidence. The likes of the layer of the Eaters have long been accepted as higher dimensions and we have scans showing that they are by statements. You have not debunked statement. Also PIS? Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Please, disprove every feat we have posted. Please do. Otherwise, you are simply downplaying feats. Or ignoring them if you think they are few to no feats.

"This quote from Savers only says there is nowhere to run because the 3 dimensions of the Earth would be equally destroyed so no matter if you flee to the other side of the world will end up dying anyway, and "superdimensional" context refers to the fact that the catastofre is covering both dimensions (real world and digital world) and still does not change the fact that the digital world would be destroyed by a "lower dimension" (planet exactly)."

Like...what does this even mean? It directly states that you cannot think in 3-D dimensions. And it's clear that it's not just the planet due to the size of the Digital World expanded on in other works. Even if you accept Savers, it is the outlier out of everything else.

"And you do not have to spend all the time sending links, I have knowledge of these blogs before they even get to this wiki."

You clearly haven't as you seemingly deny every feat as PIS despite them being consistent and are downplaying Digimon to 5-B without giving any evidence when we have already laid out countless scans that have been accepted time and time again. You also seem to think there are few of these feats when this is factually false as we have proven these past few years. Please disprove every blog you choose to deny. You haven't even explained why they are PIS. Everything we have detailed has been accepted here. You have not solidly disproved anything. Like your only argument is simply "They aren't this because I said so". No sources or scans to back yourself up when we've posted scans for days.

This is a repost to show your arguments were addressed before you try the BS us off site.
 
You can, but what about the other members who could see my point of view to end up agreeing with me?

And you did not read the old blogs, I read, I can say that there is nothing new about the layers because the base is the same, but like I said I'd better stop commenting before I get banned from the wiki by disagree.
 
"You can, but what about the other members who could see my point of view to end up agreeing with me?"

Literally anyone can go to your contributions and see them.

"And you did not read the old blogs, I read, I can say that there is nothing new about the layers because the base is the same, but like I said I'd better stop commenting before I get banned from the wiki by disagree."

Actually I have. And I know there are many different things used. You are just refusing to read as you have not provided anything debunks to new information that's more than just Tamers. You won't be banned for disagreeing. You'll get banned if you start being a problematic asshole which you haven't been. Don't play the victim. Especially as you have refused to address any new info or debunk anything. You just say "I've seen old blog, ergo, therefore, thusly these new blogs are irrelevant". This is not going to fly. Don't half ass us as we most certainly haven't half assed the evidence here.
 
What does any of this mean for the Rookies, Champions, Ultimates and 3-C Digimon like BlackWarGreymon?
 
MYHERO said:
It seems the rivalry between SMT and Digimon is finally over...
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Digging my grave here but 9-D Digimon vs SMT would still be a thing.
 
I think it's safe to add the abilities minus the mind and soul stuff, I'll wait for Ex to explain that more. I think the tiering will also wait a bit.
 
Venusmon's tier is listed as Unknown because she Is pacifistic and her fighting style involves eliminating her opponents' will to fight rather than hurt them. So does she become 1-C like the rest of them? I'm wondering because I'm making a list of all the Digimon and their Tiers.
 
I did not expect something like that. I'm almost done with my work, but I still do not know if I will be able to comment anything else here.
 
@Henry

Warrior Ten are 3-C now.

Apocalymon scales with the Dark Masters

Chonomon is apart of the Digimon Wolrd DS cast.

Armageddemon scales to High 2-A

Those X-Antibodies are the forms of Royal Knights and Olympos Xll who are listed in the scaling above.

Mervamon is an Olympos Xll member. Read the OP.

Ophanimon Core is High 2-A.

Regular ChaosGallantmon scales to Megidramon.
 
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