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spirit bomb Regenerationn negation and atomization

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HrishikeshM

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i think spirit bomb should have Regenerationn negation because it is the only one attack which was able to completely destroy buu's body so that he was never able to come back.....so spirit bomb should be able to negate the regen of buu's level....which is mid-high that lets him regen from vapor

it was also able to completely destroy fusion zamasu's body so that he also was not able to regenerate his body

either that or spirit bomb should be able to destroy the body beyond the level of vaporization...that is atomization
 
It is implied that Buu wouldn't be able to regenerate if even his ashes were vaporized.

So instead of negating his Regenerationn, it is more likely that it destroyed his entire body to the point where there was nothing left for him to regenerate from.
 
Damage3245 said:
It is implied that Buu wouldn't be able to regenerate if even his ashes were vaporized.
So instead of negating his Regenerationn, it is more likely that it destroyed his entire body to the point where there was nothing left for him to regenerate from.
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This.
 
HrishikeshM said:
buu was able to regenerate from vapor even if his ashes were vaporized in the time chamber
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His pieces were reduced to ashes. But Piccolo explicitly said that they did not vaporize the ashes.
 
i mean they burned all the pieces and buu was able to regenerate from the smoke alone, smoke is the same as vapor
 
yes evil buu also took his form from gas.....and fat buu also took his form from the gas in the egg.....and vapor is gas
 
so either spirit bomb can negate mid-high regen which is regenration from ash, dust, smoke or vapor.....or it destroys the body beyond vaporisation...to atomisation
 
already said buu can regen from that.....you did not read my comment

so either spirit bomb can atomise or negates that level of regen
 
HrishikeshM said:
already said buu can regen from that.....you did not read my comment
so either spirit bomb can atomise or negates that level of regen
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It's more like the Spirit Bomb's AP was stronger than what Buu's regenration can handle. It's not that Spirit Bomb negates regen, or that it atomizes, but it just overpowered Buu's regenration to the point where he couldn't come back. It did the same thing to Omega Shenron in GT. There's also the fact that in lore, the Spirit Bomb is more potent against evil individuals.
 
having ap stronger alone means nothing......beerus can remove buu's head with low 2-c ap but buu will still regenrate.....the user needs to be destroyed on a level which is beyond his regen so buu must have atomised for him to die

or it is regen negation because even merged zamasu was not able to regenrate back after sliced with spirit sword and he already had that kind of regen to regenrate from being sliced in half
 
Kid Buu holding the Super Spirit Bomb because Goku did not throw it at full force to be able to kill him. DB Manga 517/7

Kid Buu holding it is an error since he is Pure evil thus should of been kill regardless of strenght.

After Goku recupurated his energy thanks to Porunga he was able to defeat Kid Buu. DB Manga 517/11

So its pretty much AP.

Every Ki attack goes beyond atomization if the opponent has lower his/her Ki or is weak opponent.

Even SSJ Vegito using kiai to destroy Buuhan DB Manga 505/13
 
ProudLearner said:
Kid Buu holding it is an error since he is Pure evil thus should of been kill regardless of strenght.
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no that is wrong.....spirit bomb dont kill evil by default
 
that is also not stated anywhere......only about friendly fire and pure heart people can bounce it back.......but it was also retconned later as buu nearly bounced it back
 
HrishikeshM said:
that is also not stated anywhere......only about friendly fire and pure heart people can bounce it back.......but it was also retconned later as buu nearly bounced it back
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Regardless of that, you still have not provided evidece for the spirit bomb Regenerationn negation.

Any ki attack can go atomization,

Its was just AP attack.
 
ProudLearner said:
Regardless of that, you still have not provided evidece for the spirit bomb Regenerationn negation.

Any ki attack can go atomization,

Its was just AP attack.
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so how do you explain merged zamasu sliced in half and not regenerating from that and getting his body destroyed completely
 
but his body was completely destroyed without a trace like when beerus uses hakai.....not saying it was same as hakai but his body was completely destroyed with just a single slice and he was not able to regenerate his body
 
HrishikeshM said:
having ap stronger alone means nothing......beerus can remove buu's head with low 2-c ap but buu will still regenrate.....
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So Beerus punches with AoE to cover his entire body and atomizes

Atomizing through High enough AP is absolutely possible, saying Beerus can't bypass his regen through punches is outright wrong.
 
Damage3245 said:
It is implied that Buu wouldn't be able to regenerate if even his ashes were vaporized.
So instead of negating his Regenerationn, it is more likely that it destroyed his entire body to the point where there was nothing left for him to regenerate from.
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I agree with this point and it looks to be because the Attack Potency as @ProudLearner explained here
 
Calaca Vs said:
How would Zamasu know he was going to become the universe?
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Its uknown but I think is because his immortal body was destroyed so his soul remains and then he use the planet Earth as a body and then spread throught the universe.

Its Toei logic so I don't know...
 
HrishikeshM said:
then would the spirit bomb get deconstruction?
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Nope.

Explain to me why Vegeta tank the spirit bomb and did not get deconstructed?

Explain why Frieza tank the spirit bomb and did not get deconstructed?

The Spirit Bomb will not get Matter Destruction!

Its an AP Attack!
 
I mean, he doesn't have a way to know he was going to do that. He only knew he was immortal and that's it. It's a pretty big thing assuming Zamasu didn't regenerate himself because he was aware he'll turn into the universe.

I'm not rooting for Regen Negation with this, but it's probably the reason behind this scene, rather than the assumption.
 
ProudLearner said:
HrishikeshM said:
then would the spirit bomb get deconstruction?
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Nope.
Explain to me why Vegeta tank the spirit bomb and did not get deconstructed?

Explain why Frieza tank the spirit bomb and did not get deconstructed?

The Spirit Bomb will not get Matter Destruction!

Its an AP Attack!
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because maybe they are resistant to it.....like they are resistant to hakai

trunk's spirit bomb shows signs of deconstruction and Regenerationn negatiom
 
but trunk's slice should have just cut merged zamasu in half from which he should easily regenerate......not completely erase his body.......i think it sounds like deconstruction and Regenerationn negation.....if not then what would it count as?
 
Didn't Vegoto state that his immortality was weaker when they merged? Hence why he couldn't regenerate a chest shot?
 
i dont recall vegito stating it but gowasu said something like balck's mortal body having an affect on zamasu's immortal body.......but that was only the reason of his disoriented half monster form

nothing about his Regenerationn being affected after that

even then trunks sword slice totally erased his body so at least deconstruction
 
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