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Mario VS Goku

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I would suggest you look at the profiles. This is not a stomp for Goku considering the hax Mario has.
 
Many of Mario's haxes come from power ups which you restricted.

Also RIP this being added due to that
 
Mairo has multiple keys in Powers and Abilities, and he has more in base than with power-ups. Mario without any power-ups has passive resurrection (a one-time thig, I believe, but it's still good) and passive power nullification. He also has transmutation, possible EE, and time manipulation. And those are in base form.
 
Akreious said:
Many of Mario's haxes come from power ups which you restricted.

Also RIP this being added due to that
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Why do people care so much about things being added? Shouldn't it be about the debate?

Going netural for now, gona see how this develops
 
Speed is unequalized so:

Mario speedblitz and stomp with Possession, OHKO, Sealing, Transmutation, Sleep Manipulation, and some others things.
 
YuriAkuto said:
Speed is unequalized so:
Mario speedblitz and stomp with Possession, OHKO, Sealing, Transmutation, Sleep Manipulation, and some others things.
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Mario outspeeds Buu saga Goku?

By how much?
 
Still going with Mario for the same reasons + revival and clones creation.
 
Any reason why Mario can overpower telekinesis? From what I last read, Telekinesis resistance is based on lifting strength. Base Mario's lifting strength is Class G for lifting a castle. Based on scaling/feats, would Goku be able to freeze Mario with telekinesis and then BFR with Instant Transmission?
 
Well, apparently that was anime-only. I still have to question the legitimacy of Goku not having telekinesis when he can bend his Ki but whatever.

If they have equivalent statistics but Mario has far more hax then can Goku feasibly even win this? I'm trying to consider what Goku has, relative to Mario, and I'm coming up with no answers. If this were a DB character with telekinesis vs Mario I could make an argument but otherwise there isn't much Goku can do. If he can pull off a lucky Instant Transmission to King Kai, he could maybe BFR? But that's it.

Toei Goku would be a better matchup or maybe Toei First Form Frieza but I'm pretty we don't have a profile for Toei Frieza.
 
Some of Mario's power don't really need him to being able to move, so I don't think telekinesis would change anything.
 
So Mario seems to have a slight AP advantage in base (8 foe to roughly 6.4 foe) hmm.. How much does Kaio-ken boost his stats? (Kaio-ken 1 since I think thats what the OP means by original)
 
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Kaio-ken boosts all stats, even his senses, in accordance to the level and comparative strain on his body.
 
Also if this version of Goku is more comparable in speed should speed still be equalized?
 
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et dimitte nobis debita nostra, sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris, et ne nos inducas in tentationem, sed libera nos a malo. Amen.

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