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Luffy vs Garnet

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Since this ended up in such disappoint way, i decided to make a new OP vs SU match.

Dressrosa Arc Luffy vs End of Series Garnet, Speed Equalized and No Gear 4th

Luffy: 3 (CinCameron20, Calaca Vs, Rei Rubro)

Garnet: 0 ()

Inconclusive: 0 ()

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Luffy's resistance to blunt force and electricity will also counter most of Garnet's attacks, and he can increase his stats with Armament Haki and Gears 2nd and 3rd, although this version of Luffy has never dealt with Precognition before, only Extrasensory Perception.
 
Luffy via AP/Dura, Resistance to Blunt trauma (Even though Garnet has some piercing capability with her gauntlets, he can still use Haki to defend if necessary), Speed boosts with Gear 2nd + Soru, Statis Amp w/ Busoshoku, and even if Garnet manages to last a very long time, all this will accomplish is develop Luffy's Haki capabilities further like when he fought Katakuri in the next arc. I seriously doubt she'll last though, as Luffy's Gear 2nd scales him to be >838MT, and he's way faster than base (Which is where Garnet would scale for speed using equalize) in G2.

Being the kind of intelligence Luffy is (he's not exactly stupid, but still), he will likely think the fight is over if he poofs Garnet. But if he has to face Garnet again, nothing really implies he'd struggle more against her, and would simply be victorious again. He'll eventually get fed up and break the obvious gem that's left behind after seeing Garnet reform around it one or two times.

But considering Garnet is given a "+" in her tiering, I'm curious where she lies in here, cuz 317MT is definitely not above the half-point.
 
That doesn't justify a "+" in any sense. That only justifies an "At least".

So Garnet should be "At least Mountain level", nothing more.
 
Unless she has a canon multiplier.

Cin is explaining thing before I can do, so I'll vote por Luffy for his reasons.
 
Garnet >>>>> Amethyst and Pearl who oneshot Rubies which are undamaged by 274 MT. A bloodlusted Ruby is canonically completely powerless against Garnet. Garnet is also equal to fused Topaz who has the combined power of two Topazes who are each far superior to a Ruby.
 
Also pretty sure Luffy's speed amps would have to be restricted here as he would become blitz-levels of faster than Garnet who is faster than him normally
 
Luffy's Likely getting as fast if not faster than Garnet (but long time will pass before that happens).
 
Even is speed amps are restricted, Ger 2nd still amps strength, and Gear 3rd amps strength even more, specially if combined with Haki. Luffy takes stats pretty handedly, the only problem he would really have is the precog.
 
Luffy dealt with Precog back in the Pre-Timeskip era when he fought Enel and came with good ways to solve that problem.

Plus, it's not like Luffy doesn't have Precog in this key. It's just not Future Sight.
 
What? Do you think Katakuri is the first Precognition user in the manga?
 
Yeah, which is why the Haki page only mentions Katakuri in the Precognition part, and the other Observation users are mentioned in the Extrasensory Perception part.
 
That's indeed a mistake.

Just look at Enel. He's the textbook example of precognition.

God damnit, even Satori was able to tell what was Luffy about to do seconds before doing it.
 
Katakuri is the one mentioned in the Precog bit because he's the best example of what can Observation do. He's not the first Precog user and you're interpreting the text in a wrong way.
 
> "Only advantage"

> "Stamina: Limitless"

> "Sealing (Via Bubbles), and BFR (Via Bubbles)"

> "Regenerationn (Low-High)"
 
CinCameron20 said:
Being the kind of intelligence Luffy is (he's not exactly stupid, but still), he will likely think the fight is over if he poofs Garnet. But if he has to face Garnet again, nothing really implies he'd struggle more against her, and would simply be victorious again. He'll eventually get fed up and break the obvious gem that's left behind after seeing Garnet reform around it one or two times.
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Doesn't use Seal/BFR in combat and Stamina won't matter when Luffy's so much stonger.
 
Yeah, she could win if she used those, it just happens that she won't, which means this is a decisive victory for Luffy, instead of a stomp, since the defeat is Garnet's fault for not using BFR or Sealing.
 
Actually no, Garnet couldn't even do it anyway as she'd need to get in close to Luffy and Luffy could immediately break out of it anyway. And I don't think she's ever even touching him with that range advantage.
 
Also, even if "stamina won't matter" (even tho it could still matter depending on how she fights), it is still an advantage that she has, it just happens that it isn't enough of an advantage to guarantee a victory. So, yeah, not a stomp.
 
CinnabarManx421 said:
Actually no, Garnet couldn't even do it anyway as she'd need to get in close to Luffy and Luffy could immediately break out of it anyway. And I don't think she's ever even touching him with that range advantage.
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> Dodge attacks to get closer.

> Bubble him.

> Quickly teleport him away before he can break out.

Simple.
 
Yes, she can, the opponent being willing or incapacitate was never said to be a requirement at any point, and she was even shown to be able to bubble Steven while he didn't even know what was happening.
 
Why are you arguing that to begin with? She doesn't use it in-character.
 
Even if she doesn't use it in character, the mere fact she can use it makes this a decisive for Luffy instead of a stomp. If the other character has any way to win, no matter how unlikely, then it isn't a stomp.
 
Yes, I know, but that was settled before. We don't need to circle around the same idea of a power that isn't in-character. She could but she wouldn't use it.
 
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