Marvel's "At least 2-C, possibly 2-A" Upgrade.

• Franklin Richards affecting and re-creating the Nexus of All Realities , as well as Dr.Strange stating only those capable of returning the heroes to Earth (referencing Heroes Reborn) had the power to reverse the shattering of the Nexus other than the Protector of the Nexus). The Nexus shattering caused Strange to work at all Levels of the Multiverse to hold it back (which the bare minimum for the feat could be considered 2-A
• Cosmic Cubes were described at this level of power in numerous variations. including an new comic where someone stated a weakened Cosmic Cube can destroy infinite timelines and a Fully Powered one can destroy "all reality" . The Cubes also have consistent levels on that level or far above (here,here,here,here,here)
• The Revision Wave was going to collaps All Reality into a single timestream . This scales to Franklin as not only did he jumped headfirst into it... But also Adult Franklin was stated to have stopped it himself . He also was holding back his power significantly in order to save it for the fight with the Celestials.
• Strange Tales is at bare lowball 2-A via many statements about the Nexus noted above and the Fallen Stars.
• Celestials are stated to be the architects of all creation . Even stated in Ultimates
• Someone with something the Celestials created, can destroy the Multiverse
• Roma outright states that her power comes , instead of being one with the Matrix like she was previously , now is using the Otherworld + Starlight Citadel (Which while notably weaker than the Matrix's level of 2-A, is still 2-A both which are clearly 2-Asources [ All of Existence for Starlight Citadel ] calls the Celestials and by proxy Franklin "All-Powerful "
• Franklin being explicitly stated superior to Tiamut who is a threat to[ All Creation... Twice (https://ibb.co/wgyt5Sq,https://ibb.co/Trb9qVtto) and is the Strongest Celestial, thusly should be far above Asheema, who effortlessly transcended to the Cusp of Eternity beyond the Crossroads of Infinity/Edge of Subspace
• Franklin is a danger to the Omniverse , He is a threat to all existence [ By Uatu, who observes the Infintie Totality of Existence
• Franklin Richards' Doppleganger which absorbed a small portion of his powers was causing Omni-Dimensional damage.
• Recent Comics state FR can manipulate the Multiverse (During the Griever event)... As well as it's Superstructure during Secret Wars . This could be considered a far higher end feat considering the cosmology og Secret Wars/Ultimates...
• Mephisto and Hela causing an Omniversal Upheaval. (Likely an Outlier for them but notable at least)
• The Realm of the Universal Abstracts (Overspace) being a realm beyond all realities .

• Infinite Realities created every moment, each Quantum Reality branching off infinite universes ad-infinitum (Basically each infinite timelines each branch into infinite timelines, then does this for infinity... This is already above a grand deal of verses' 2-A cosmologies)
• Universes without limit (implying Infinte/Endless Universes) created via every thought , dream , or creature being bor (Countless/Infinite Realities created per every thought/dream/creature being born.... Which combined with how many timelines there are... Makes the level of 2-A asinine)
• This statement about each "atom" containing it's own full-fledged reality (This is within one reality within the Multiverse... So it could upgrade the 2-C's/Low 2-C's of Marvel to perhaps 2-B)
• Every decision creates a timeline (Considering how many timelines exist... This makes the level of 2-A atrociously larger than before).
• There are Countless Multiverses , which may have been confirmed to be "Infinite Multiverses "

• The Multiverse doesn't treat the Crossroads of Infinity as some godlike structure or something impossible to scale to, unlike what people were claiming. Ever since it was revealed it was the Negative Zone it was constantly remarked as merely another reality within the Multiverse... And even when in comparison to plains within the realities of the Multiverse it's regarded as the lowest level. Not to mention several people considerably weaker or on par with it qere shown as scaling to it (Nullifier, IG , even Franklin Richards during the Onslaught event had control over the Crossroads of Infinity / Negative Zone... and the Celestials.... and quite a few more)

• Remarking about inconsistency doesn't get you anywhere with this franchise... And the majority of the people were using this as actual evidence... It isn't. It is just grasping for straws.

• We've had Avatars perform High 1-B feats.. Even after the Quasar incident (which they were fighting at the highest level of existence) the Universal Abstract of 616 were consistently stated as the strongest Avatars... Which makes sense considering 616's importance to the multiverse at large.

• The Chaos Wace wasn't something "uber powerful"... Directly after the event Marvel had a guidebook that listed Franklin Richards as tbe strongest Mutant even during the Chaos Wave event and was even compared to the Chaos Wave by Scarlet Witch ... Saying she's never encountered power so great in her lifetime.

• The structures mentioned above are within the timelines, before we even get to the Higher-Dimensions... And there are a plethora of showings that these High 1-B structures are within the 2-A Multiverse... And we've had people affecting them since from the beginning of Marvel to the present.
• It would make destroying all timelines at their highest interpretation High 1-B, thusly paving the way for consistency.If you can argue them not being within the timelines .... Then we can close for good. If not the possibility for it being debatable is still very much in the air.

Izreldan said:

So, just to clarify:

Skyfather Level characters will be 2-C

Celestial Level characters will be At least 2-C, possibly 2-A

Abstract Level characters will be 2-A

Is this correct or am I off?

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• Roma gains her current powers from the Starlight Citadel + Otherworld, after the events of the Matrix was destroyed, both which are connected to the Multiverse (Here , Here, Here , Here , Here,Here)... Which means her raw power is very likely 2-A. The problem is one of the scans hinted that all the planes the Tower/Otherworld encompasses, the lowest of these infinite planes "contains all Alternate Universes".... Stacked on top of each other... Not sure what to do about that... Because they really do seem to hint about them being connected to Higher-Dimensions here... So maybe At least 2-A if we are trying to be very conservative ?
• Roma considers the Celestials [In general] as "All-Powerful" (Here)... Which means they'd be above what Roma would be at her peak.
• Base Roma and Merlyn (Merlyn without any connection to anytihing and is at his weakest) are a threats to Omnigod Jamie , who was essentially gaining this much power (He was spreading himself across the Multiverse... Through the Tower... So yeah).

• (Fought on equal footing with Lore, who absorbed Tens of Thousaunds of Nexus Beings , which even one, if used destructively can cause devastation across all futures across all timelines & divergent timelines)