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Ben 10 vs. Spider-Man (REDUX, Complete)

Cannonbolt is only Low 7-C with sufficient momentum. He's 8-A in Base so I don't think he should be used here
 
It isn't like he has to use Cannonbolt specifically. He can use any form Low 7-C or less
 
ok cool, ben goes into grey matter, goes with the best stratagy, goes ghostfreak, possess spidy and proceeds to kill him.
 
Spidey has a limited resistence to possesion, has precog, and can tell how close someone is via enhanced senses. He also has power null and elemental damage via prep
 
Alright, time to dig into this.

Ben does have a good variety of aliens, each having a rough 2x AP advantage, but none of them really pose much of a threat that's out of the ordinary to Spider-Man. Ghostfreak is probably the biggest problem, but Ben won't use him. Why? Because it's in Central Park in the middle of the day, and Ghostfreak is weak to light without the first layer of its skin. Still, even if he isn't harmed, his invisibility isn't going to do anything when Spidey can sense him just as easily.

Spider-Man has prep, which will undoubtedly give him access to any suit he thinks is necessary. The Mark IV is a safe bet due to the versatility the suit has over his stealth suits and it being his most modern suit compared to the other Mark armors. His Z Metal Webbing counters any energy Ben's aliens can throw at him by absorbing it and redirecting it back at him, while his other forms of webbing (acidic, concrete, etc.) can be used for more of a distraction if nothing else.

Not only that, but he has years of experience and has greater skill than Ben does and fought a far wider variety of people than what Ben has access to here. His standard webbing is also good for defense as much as it is trying to entangle Ben, acting as shields that can hold up against any projectiles or damage. He also has crazy mobility with his webbing, and even without it he can really move like a slimy spider. That's not even mentioning his Spider Sense, which gives him a very distinct advantage to make up for the AP gap between him and Ben's aliens.

TL;DR: Spider-Man for superior experience, skill, versatility, webbing, mobility, and Spider Sense.
 
May I intervene that only Z'Skyare himself is weak to light. When Ben turns into Ghostfreak he gets the second layer of skin which will protect him, so the sunlight weakness is a necro.

However this is KID Ben. It would be insanely OOC for him to use Ghostfreak and possess Spidey as this Ben HATES using Ghostfreak and won't unless he's Bloodlusted.

Spidey FRA
 
Also, for clarity's sake, this isn't a stomp, right? I'd assume Ben has fair win conditions here.
 
Ben has like ...... one actually viable way via Ghostfreak but if this is kid Ben, that is absolutely ooc. The available Low 7-C aliens likely won't manage Spidey at all seeing as MC Kid Ben lost to Vilgax and Kevin and both are just beatsticks (Kevin's powers are all much weaker than Ben's). Spidey has too much versatility for a noob Ben to take.

If he can use Clockwork, then he will just stall against Spidey and eventually time hax but thats kinda unfair.
 
That sounds more decisive than stomp-ish. If Ben was "skilled enough" he might have a chance of winning I presume, so therefore it's fair
 
So now Spidey's nerfed. Fair enough?

EDIT: Nevermind. I'm literally making it as fair as I can since both characters have almost an equal amount of hax. At most I'll change it to adult Ben.

Also, the wall-crawler can casually wreck dimension hoppers, fought on par with Inter-universal vampire brotherhoods, and tricked the avatars of a primordial space-god and the smartest guy on the planet. Feats downplay is real.
 
You can remove Spidey's prep and I'm pretty sure he'd still win anyways.

Spider-Man still has a far greater amount of skill and experience in comparison to Ben, webbing to at least offer some time to wail on him (Class M vs Class M) as well as offer defenses, weapons, and mobility, and the whole load of things his Spider Sense offers to basically make the fight easier for him.
 
ShakeResounding said:
Because it's in Central Park in the middle of the day, and Ghostfreak is weak to light without the first layer of its skin. Still, even if he isn't harmed, his invisibility isn't going to do anything when Spidey can sense him just as easily.
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Where does it say that the fight takes place in the middle of the day?
 
I assumed from SBA. Neither particularly get stronger during either time of the day, and I kept seeing people say SBA has it as daytime. Am I wrong here?
 
ShakeResounding said:
I assumed from SBA. Neither particularly get stronger during either time of the day, and I kept seeing people say SBA has it as daytime. Am I wrong here?
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well if one of bens aliens, ghostfreak, can't be used in daylight then ben would be "strounger" at night
 
ShakeResounding said:
I guess that makes sense.
Still, as other pointed out, it's still extremely OOC for him to use Ghostfreak anyways.
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but after using greymatter to make a genius level stratagy to use all his aliens in unisine.
 
Tots Real said:
ShakeResounding said:
I guess that makes sense.
Still, as other pointed out, it's still extremely OOC for him to use Ghostfreak anyways.
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but after using greymatter to make a genius level stratagy to use all his aliens in unisine.
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Pretty sure he wouldn't start a fight with Greymatter.

Also, Spider FRA
 
EmperorDoom25 said:
Pretty sure he wouldn't start a fight with Greymatter.

Also, Spider FRA
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bens a pritty smart kid in a fight and while fighting will probably go for the brains at some point
 
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