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Abnormal Endurance Page?
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Isn't this just Immortality Type 2?
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I could swear we already had something similar. Strange.
In that case, i agree.
In that case, i agree.
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Its a resistance derived from Abnormal Endurance. It's common in fiction to ignore durability Negation through willpower and similar attributes.Wokistan said:
I would agree, except it boosts none of those stats (PP or Defense, and nowhere is adrenaline mentioned)
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Unless we're going to consider Stamina two separate attributes, it doesn't make sense to lump in feats of this with Stamina.
That would be a especially big double standard considering the existence of Superhuman Physical Characteristics
That would be a especially big double standard considering the existence of Superhuman Physical Characteristics
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We also don't merge Superhuman Speed with the Speed page even if they cover similar things.
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Ignoring durability negation through willpower or whatever is still just a resistance to that effect.
If the effect is to allow the user to survive more hits than they should be able to, it is by definition related in some way to durability regardless of what statistics are affected. The actual effect is more important than how the game classifies, and the effect here already fits into durability and stamina. People can push themselves further than they really should sometimes, past the point of the body failing, but that's not some sort of special power.
If the effect is to allow the user to survive more hits than they should be able to, it is by definition related in some way to durability regardless of what statistics are affected. The actual effect is more important than how the game classifies, and the effect here already fits into durability and stamina. People can push themselves further than they really should sometimes, past the point of the body failing, but that's not some sort of special power.
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Yes, but that would be derived from the ability in a similar manner to Inorganic Physiology, so unless we remove that page it would be another double standard.
Even if it does fall under durability, we have multiple pages that fall under the category of other statistics. Pain Tolerance is also a important part of this ability, which seems to be a point you've missed. Endure and Sturdy are just two examples.
Even if it does fall under durability, we have multiple pages that fall under the category of other statistics. Pain Tolerance is also a important part of this ability, which seems to be a point you've missed. Endure and Sturdy are just two examples.
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And a power doesn't have to be "superhuman" or special to be on this wiki. See Genius Intelligence, Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Vehicular Mastery, Weapon Mastery, and Martial Arts
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It's also notable that you can have this ability without immortality Type 2.
For example, Berserker (Fate/stay night) briefly survived being killed 12 times over despite only having 11 extra lives and almost killed Gilgamesh.
For example, Berserker (Fate/stay night) briefly survived being killed 12 times over despite only having 11 extra lives and almost killed Gilgamesh.
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Inorganic physiology was made a thing so we could just list that as opposed to a boatload of standard resistances. It's a list of defaults, whereas these are specific resistances that can't be assumed to scale to others.
Pain tolerance is a redirect to pain resistance, usually.
Never claimed that it did, but those powers were not made redundant by already existing parts of the classification system.
This just qualifies for type 2 immortality.
Pain tolerance is a redirect to pain resistance, usually.
Never claimed that it did, but those powers were not made redundant by already existing parts of the classification system.
This just qualifies for type 2 immortality.
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This just means he must not have been fully killed the last time, and just really badly injured instead.
Nope. He was explicitly supposed to be dead that extra time, and had God's Hand delpletedt and was for all intents and purposes dead, but still managed to get one or two blows in.
Nope. He was explicitly supposed to be dead that extra time, and had God's Hand delpletedt and was for all intents and purposes dead, but still managed to get one or two blows in.
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That is true, but this is more or less based on feats anyway. It's also worth noting all Inorganic Physiology is treated differently in verse.Wokistan said:
Resistance to Pain Manipulation implies that pain Manipulation would not work while pain tolerance means that it the person can survive large amounts of pain, even outside of having it directly inflicted on them.
Like Time Stop, Energy Projection, and literally any ability that can be considered Elemental Manipulation?
See the above.
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Also, Weapon Mastery, Martial Arts, Genius Intelligence, and Vehicular Mastery are all redundant due to the existence of Intelligence by that logic.
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I agree with this. This page can be for feats that just simply bypass the point of stamina. Like the servants with Battle Continuation who can fight with muscles torn and organs destroyed up until literally their last breath with no decrease in combat ability, or Kotomine Kirei who was literally ringed out like a towel and could still fight almost a day after with no healing
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Immortality implies long term tho, which that isn't
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Oh I see, then yeah
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This sounds like the combination of Superhuman Stamina, type 2 Immortality, Pain Supression and a minor version of Self-Sustenace; actually, that can be covered by only Stamina, so is kinda unnecessary.
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I already explained above that simply stamina cannot cover the extremes of this. Immortality type 2 does not apply to things like battle Continuation. Self sustenance only applies to some situations but not all.
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