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Bill Cipher vs Kratos

Kratos resists Petrification, Mind Manipulation, Sleep Manipulation, Madness Manipulation, so there goes a few of Bill's more common tricks, but Kratos doesn't seem to resist Biological Manipulation or Transmutation, so Bill could potentially shuffle the functions of every hole in his face or turn him into a chair, unless Kratos can kill him first.

Bill can also control Space, Time and Matter, however, I don't think any of those can get past Kratos' Resurrection. I think Kratos is stronger, but can he bypass Low-Godly? Legit asking, I don't remember if he can do that or not.
 
If he doesn't resist Transmutation, Bill wins. It's an opening move he has which completely incaps an opponent. Voting Bill
 
Low-Godly is "The ability to regenerate from the complete physical destruction of your body, instead restoring it from your disembodied consciousness, whether that be your soul, mind, or something else."

Get rid of that and they die.
 
Well Kratos seems to have a way to actually destroy Bill's body and soul so that's fine but I doubt he starts with it
 
@Jack I know what thing you're talking about but he doesn't need lead with it IIRC while Bill does with transmutation
 
Jackythejack said:
How do you generally kill something with low godly? Just curious
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Incap methods such as mind control, BFR, sealing etc work to get past Low Godly. Depending on how good the low godly is, soul and mind destruction or simply good enough regen negation all work.
 
TheArsenal1212 said:
If he doesn't resist Transmutation, Bill wins. It's an opening move he has which completely incaps an opponent. Voting Bill
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Doesn't it work similar to petrification with Kratos resists?
 
Petrification is just turning someone into stone, so yeah they're similar
 
Bill seems more likely to win here, voting later just in case.
 
GyroNutz said:
Petrification is just turning someone into stone, so yeah they're similar
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No idea if you're being sarcastic, but I'm referring moreso to Bill's gold transmutation power.
 
Different outcomes but the ability used to reach that outcome is pretty much the same
 
I guess it depends on Kratos' level of resistance

Plus what's stopping Bill from clicking his fingers and putting him to sleep (like he did mabel) or use a similar blast that he did to the Time Baby or even realise how tough he is and BFR him?
 
Kratos resists Sleep Manipulation, although it does say that his resistance is limited; don't think he has answer to BFR tho.
 
A lot of people like to point out that Bill starts with lasers of punching. However this is only when he's extremely arrogant and thinks something will be a breeze (Shacktron) When he needs to take care of something and takes it seriously, he uses better hax. Like when he incaps the kids after they gave him trouble, or BFRs Mabel, or transmutes/petrifies Ford. I think after a few lasers and uses of hax, he'll use his better hax like BFR or a full power blast to kill Kratos. The only example where he doesn't use it is when the kids get away and his extremely angry. That won't be the case here. The kids had been a thorn in his side the whole show so he didn't think to use his hax. Kratos in the other hand isn't like this and eventually Bill will use something like BFR which Kratos doesn't resist and beat him.

Kratos can only win by removing his soul and killing it, however I highly doubt he'll be able to use it and pull it off. Mostly because he won't lead with it and by the time he thinks to use it Bill would of already beaten him. So I'm sticking with Bill for these reasons
 
TheArsenal1212 said:
A lot of people like to point out that Bill starts with lasers of punching. However this is only when he's extremely arrogant and thinks something will be a breeze (Shacktron) When he needs to take care of something and takes it seriously, he uses better hax. Like when he incaps the kids after they gave him trouble, or BFRs Mabel, or transmutes/petrifies Ford. I think after a few lasers and uses of hax, he'll use his better hax like BFR or a full power blast to kill Kratos. The only example where he doesn't use it is when the kids get away and his extremely angry. That won't be the case here. The kids had been a thorn in his side the whole show so he didn't think to use his hax. Kratos in the other hand isn't like this and eventually Bill will use something like BFR which Kratos doesn't resist and beat him.
Kratos can only win by removing his soul and killing it, however I highly doubt he'll be able to use it and pull it off. Mostly because he won't lead with it and by the time he thinks to use it Bill would of already beaten him. So I'm sticking with Bill for these reasons
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Why would he take this seriously when he sees Kratos who looks like a white guy with a skirt on to him?
 
He starts with hax even against normal humans.

This "Bill starts with punching" argument is based on pure PIS because the writters couldn't come up with a way for Bill to lose in the last episode, so they had to nerf him into oblivion; we're talking about the same episode where Bill got hurt by a can of spray paint and couldn't outrun some kids.
 
There's something people forget, Kratos erased gods. IN Greek mythology, gods don't die, they're just sent to the depths of Tartarus, which means that Kratos had to completely erase them. Kratos also alwys has all of his weapons, which means he always has his god killing abilities, we're also talking about power of hope Kratos, who is practically guarunteed to win. Bill was also beaten by 12 year-olds, so...
 
Alright so, blade of exile, sees it doesn't kill Bill. Bill laughs again cause he thinks Kratos can't kill him and before he does his next hax Claws of Hades gg.
 
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