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The Undying fights The One-Punch

ApiesDeathbyLazors

ApiesDeathbyLazors

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Because Wynaut?

Saitama somehow found himself in Snowdin and started one-punching monsters on reflex and got the attention of a certian, aggressive fish lady. Speed Equalized. Both are standing 10 meters apart and staring each other down. High 6-A Saitama as if that wasn't obvious vs Base Undyne.

Undyne

Saitama
 
Iirc Undyne gave Frisk a weapon to defend himself in their fight instead of just straight up bombarding him with soul attacks.

If she gives even the slightest chance for Saitama to retaliate she's done for. Considering he can just lightly wave his fist and allow the shock wave to kill her.
 
And Saitama, for all his casualness, usually throws the first punch. Not voting as of yet though
 
I agree that Saitama would punch first if this was base Undyne. Now, if it was changed to Undyne the Undying...
 
And even the Undying wouldn't go first, as she monologued for ages before starting
 
It probably starts with Saitama standing in place, Undyne giving him a spear, Saitama casually throws the spear, Undyne is reduced to paste. Something like that.
 
At Speed Equalised, I'm going with inconclusive. Even if she tries to make it fair I doubt Saitama would use the spear because he sees himself winning with one punch. Therefore, Saitama leads with the punch. Either he hits first and Undyne dies or she reacts and grabs his soul before that happens and annihilates his soul
 
Fish - 3 (Cinnabar, Headless, Andytrenom)

Fist - 3 (Gyro, Starter, Crimson)

What's a word that means Inconclusive and looks like fish and fist - 1 (Arsenal)
 
ApiesDeathbyLazors said:
Fish - 3 (Cinnabar, Headless, Andytrenom)
Fist - 4 (Gyro, Starter, Crimson, IvoryAS)

What's a word that means Inconclusive and looks like fish and fist - 1 (Arsenal)
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I can't think of anything either, so I think that will work untill someone else does.
 
Bald Eagle Catches A Fish

also I vote Fist fra.
 
Wait....I'm an idiot, I was supposed to vote for Saitama.

Can you please change it?
 
Fish - 1 (Cinnabar)

Fist - 7 (Gyro, Starter, Crimson, Andytrenom, Headless, Arrogant, Pixel)

Finishsn't - 1 (Arsenal)

It infact is.
 
I don't think a single punch would be enough to actually kill Undyne as she has Determination.

She was shown to be able to regenerate from being dusted before transitioning into her Undying phase, and in both the Genocide route and the Neutral route the only reason she finally goes down is because her body no longer allows her to take the Determination, causing her to melt that causes her to melt in a fashion similar to the amalgamates.

Undyne will be punched, then reform, and then seeing how strong Saitama is, immediately go all out. Seeing as he has no sort of resistance to soul hax, he very well might be one-shot in turn.

My vote is for Undyne.
 
She regenerated from being almost dusted, not from being completely obliterated from the face of the earth. As well, Undyne isn't bloodlusted, nor in her Undying form.

So, when she's punched, she's dead. Her regen wouldn't revive her from it, since her Regenerationn only saved her when she was half-way dusted and not even dead. One hit from Saitama would obliterate her into individual particles, before she could develop an inch of determination.
 
ThePixelKirby said:
She regenerated from being almost dusted, not from being completely obliterated from the face of the earth. As well, Undyne isn't bloodlusted, nor in her Undying form.

So, when she's punched, she's dead. Her regen wouldn't revive her from it, since her Regenerationn only saved her when she was half-way dusted and not even dead. One hit from Saitama would obliterate her into individual particles, before she could develop an inch of determination.
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She was in the process of being dusted, Saitama isn't bloodlusted either and isn't going to vaporize her, as he never vaporized anything he ever punched in the anime or manga.

Undyne was determined enough in the neutral route to avoid dusting, which was my point, that her changing into her Undying form had no bearing on the fact she could regenerate in that fashion, as both times she would have still turned to mush after her body could no longer sustain it, she's too determined to die in both routes. (See her having no HP, being effectively dead, and still taking hits regardless until she mushes whilst exclaiming in a burst of energy that she will not die)

Also, her whole body had separated into particles in the genocide route, she only reformed a second afterwards.

I never said Undyne was bloodlusted, did you not read my comment? I made it very clear that she'd be willing to go all out on him once she realized he was capable of that output.
 
Abstractions said:
ThePixelKirby said:
She regenerated from being almost dusted, not from being completely obliterated from the face of the earth. As well, Undyne isn't bloodlusted, nor in her Undying form.

So, when she's punched, she's dead. Her regen wouldn't revive her from it, since her Regenerationn only saved her when she was half-way dusted and not even dead. One hit from Saitama would obliterate her into individual particles, before she could develop an inch of determination.
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She was in the process of being dusted, Saitama isn't bloodlusted either and isn't going to vaporize her, as he never vaporized anything he ever punched in the anime or manga.
Undyne was determined enough in the neutral route to avoid dusting, which was my point, that her changing into her Undying form had no bearing on the fact she could regenerate in that fashion, as both times she would have still turned to mush after her body could no longer sustain it, she's too determined to die in both routes. (See her having no HP, being effectively dead, and still taking hits regardless until she mushes whilst exclaiming in a burst of energy that she will not die)

Also, her whole body had separated into particles in the genocide route, she only reformed a second afterwards.

I never said Undyne was bloodlusted, did you not read my comment? I made it very clear that she'd be willing to go all out on him once she realized he was capable of that output.
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1. In the process doesn't mean completely dusted. Her body still had shape.

2. Even a casual punch from Saitama would absolutely obliterate her. 7-B vs High 6-A? That's an absolutely massive gap, and he vaporized far more potent foes with just one punch.

3. Her determination in the given scenario is certainly not as high as in the Genocide Run- even if it was, she'd still get one-shot.

4. She won't have time to know he was a strong foe since... She'd be dead.

If you really want to argue that she has Mid-High or High Regen, make a CRT. But she doesn't. Even in the Genocide run, her body still had a semi-consistent shape and wasn't completely gone. And that was with far more determination than she'd have here.

Until you can prove she has High Regenerationn in a CRT, your vote can not be counted, since your entire argument relies on her having High Regenerationn.
 
ThePixelKirby said:
1. In the process doesn't mean completely dusted. Her body still had shape.

2. Even a casual punch from Saitama would absolutely obliterate her. 7-B vs High 6-A? That's an absolutely massive gap, and he vaporized far more potent foes with just one punch.

3. Her determination in the given scenario is certainly not as high as in the Genocide Run- even if it was, she'd still get one-shot.

4. She won't have time to know he was a strong foe since... She'd be dead.

If you really want to argue that she has Mid-High or High Regen, make a CRT. But she doesn't. Even in the Genocide run, her body still had a semi-consistent shape and wasn't completely gone. And that was with far more determination than she'd have here.

Until you can prove she has High Regenerationn in a CRT, your vote can not be counted, since your entire argument relies on her having High Regenerationn.
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1. Her having shape was the particles of her body being held together, her body had still separated regardless and thus qualifies for that level of regen.

2. See Mosquito Girl only being pasted to a blood spatter, not fully obliterated, see Vaccine Man, Deep Sea King, etc. (All within Undyne's range, mind you)

3. It does not need to be, as I've already stated it was still enough to her to persist beyond death and hold herself together.

4. Pointless statement. See above.

She was on the verge of bursting, her body had been reduced to particles as the visual in-game was clearly trying to represent, if she was able to hold shape and reform based on this it qualifies for that level of regen.

"And that was with far more determination" Not really? In both interactions with her she starts off by feeling defeated, but only afterwards continues to fight on. In fact, she seems more angry and motivated to not die in the Neutral route, in which she still fights as she's splitting apart and reforms with enough determination to mush herself.

She performs her reforming feat in Genocide prior to mustering up the Determination to become Undying, which happens during her monologue. Undying only comes into fruition with the stakes presented, as in Neutral it was about everyone in the Underground, in Genocide it was about Earth.

You haven't exactly presented an argument that holds water to the idea she doesn't have Mid-High. Being split into dust is still just that, regardless of her using her determination to retain her shape and regenerate. So I see no reason my vote should be discounted.

It should be pointed out that Undyne has Regen on her page as well, but the degree is unspecified.
 
ApiesDeathbyLazors said:
Stop quoteing text walls please.
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What I quoted was hardly that large.
 
1. Get a CRT for it. Not only is it not High Regen, but it's with a level of determination she doesn't have.

2. Animes can be inconsistent. In the wiki, we don't look at it like that. A high 6-A attack will quite literally obliterate 7-B Undyne on so many levels it's not even funny.

3. CRT.

4. CRT.

Make a CRT to put High Regen on the profile, then we can talk. And even if you did, you'd have to prove she'd have that in her base form.

You can't feel defeated if you are already dead. You can't feel determination and reform if you are already dead.

She mustered Determination in the Genocide Run because... she was still alive. It's quite impossible to gain determination if you are already dead. Meaning, her regen is not near her Undying levels, since her determination is not that high, and will not get that high.

So, you can make a CRT that Undyne can gain determination while literally already dead, and a CRT for High Regen in base form. Then, you can come back and vote.
 
I'll refer you to what I already posted as you continue to repeat yourself.
 
I've already proven how your argument falls apart. Make the CRT, or your vote can't be counted. Your vote relies on concepts that Undyne doesn't have.

Or you can continue to avoid the thought of how someone gains determination while they are dead. Take your choice.
 
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