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Asriel starts in base form, doing his condescending head-shaking. Who wins. First form YHVH
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Asriel Dreemurr vs YHVH
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Well YHVH is vastly superior to characters who are vastly superior to characters who are vastly superior to characters on the level of head shaky Asriel (gotta love SMT power scaling :/), and he's omnipresent, while head shaky is only immeasurable, and wingy is only likely omnipresent, so I'll go with YHVH
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Well he also has his nigh-omniscience and immortality, as well as stuff like instant death magic that has worked against 2A beings, so I can't see YHVH losing this
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Let just say this : The creation god Bel has the power to make Metatron, an atleast 2-A being look like a joke. YHVH beat up Bel in the acient time and teared Bel away into pieces. that is pretty much answered everything :|
in SMT franchise, there are a shitload number of beings whom got ranked at At-least 2-A for being able to ROLFSTOMP other At least 2-A. YHVH is above all of them in power, hell even the Lord Demiurge, a single fragment of YHVH was slapped Metatron away like nothing.
in SMT franchise, there are a shitload number of beings whom got ranked at At-least 2-A for being able to ROLFSTOMP other At least 2-A. YHVH is above all of them in power, hell even the Lord Demiurge, a single fragment of YHVH was slapped Metatron away like nothing.
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I don't think so.
Asriel destroyed timelines which is pretty much universes. In terms of stats on the game, he is also infinite.
Albeit, YHVH is considered the god of SMT, he was still killed by beings weaker than him, while asriel can't be harmed unless he is made to be remembered who he was. But yhvh does have his voice of god attack. Dunno if it would affect asriel.
Hell, it could be a tie.
Asriel destroyed timelines which is pretty much universes. In terms of stats on the game, he is also infinite.
Albeit, YHVH is considered the god of SMT, he was still killed by beings weaker than him, while asriel can't be harmed unless he is made to be remembered who he was. But yhvh does have his voice of god attack. Dunno if it would affect asriel.
Hell, it could be a tie.
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When has he ever been killed by beings weaker than him? Flynn? He was chosen by the Great Will himself to off YHVH.
And YHVH is a greater aspect of the Great Will than someone like Kagutsuchi who can easily destroy the entire Amala Network just by dying, causing creation, space, and time to cease to exist completely.
And YHVH is a greater aspect of the Great Will than someone like Kagutsuchi who can easily destroy the entire Amala Network just by dying, causing creation, space, and time to cease to exist completely.
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I have no idea on who is going to win.
Asriel, well, in his base form, he is absurdly dwarfs Flowey (who is also a 2-A being as well) in power by an infinite amount.....literally. Not to mention his God Of Hyperdeath form, which is also even greater than his first form by an immense amount.
But we arent using second form asriel which kinda sucks tho.
YHVH has the advantage here due to the fact he is Omnipresent afterall and Asriel first form is only Immesurable.
Asriel, well, in his base form, he is absurdly dwarfs Flowey (who is also a 2-A being as well) in power by an infinite amount.....literally. Not to mention his God Of Hyperdeath form, which is also even greater than his first form by an immense amount.
But we arent using second form asriel which kinda sucks tho.
YHVH has the advantage here due to the fact he is Omnipresent afterall and Asriel first form is only Immesurable.
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I never said Angel of Death form wasn't allowed. I just said he starts in base.
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What advantage does Asriel have over YHVH, they're the same speed but YHVH has nigh omniscience and instant death magic, as well as special defense bypassing skills, and type 3, 4, and 8 immortality that makes "killing" him pointless. I don't really see how Asriel can put him down, or even has any advantage
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But Asriel never showed the ability to use save states, just because he's above omega Flowey doesn't make him able to use his abilities and I don't remember him using timelines beyond destroying them, and that's something that pretty much any tier 2 can achieve, not to mention if he could use saves YHVH could just obliterate the timelines Asriel had saved in. Also how can he put down YHVH who has type 8 immortality?
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Well I think it's at least partially that any being in SMT can come back as long as they still have supporters, right? So you'd have to kill everyone who believes in them throughout the multiverse to truly kill them. It might also come from the great will, I don't really remember :/
Also I assumed that the reason Asriel didn't do that was something like he was a higher percent monster with all the monster souls he absorbed, but that's probably just me jumping to conclusions. xD But either way he didn't have enough determination to overpower Frisk's so I doubt it will be enough to come back from YHVH doing something like destroying his soul.
Also almighty attacks bypass special defenses, so they may bypass his determination, not sure if that changes anything.
Also I assumed that the reason Asriel didn't do that was something like he was a higher percent monster with all the monster souls he absorbed, but that's probably just me jumping to conclusions. xD But either way he didn't have enough determination to overpower Frisk's so I doubt it will be enough to come back from YHVH doing something like destroying his soul.
Also almighty attacks bypass special defenses, so they may bypass his determination, not sure if that changes anything.
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Didn't Demiurge, whose just a small fraction of YHVH roflstomp Metatron? I just don't see how Asriel can win this.
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There is one important factor that literally make this thread even harder to decide.Darkanine said:
These two characters, YHVH and Asriel, are the most powerful beings in their respected games.
However, these two share one similiar feat. Both may be 2-A beings, but they are suprisingly impossibly stronger than the other 2-A beings in their own games.
YHVH, a 2-A being, is literally EXTREMELY beyond ALL OTHER 2-A beings in his own game. He literally ROFL Stomp other 2-A beings.
Asriel, a 2-A being, literally MASSIVELY DWARF OTHER 2-A beings by literally an ∞ AMOUNT. And thats only his base form, his final form, FAR SURPASSES his first form by an insane amount.
They both are impossibly stronger than other 2-A characters in their own games. Which is why, I see this as a thread wont have a very likely winner and most probably will be Inconclusive due to how similiar these characters are, and their max power we cant even pin point.
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Going from that statement I think this fight is inconclusive, both fighters are infinitely above other 2-A's and we can't determine that exact degree of power. If I were to choose a winner, I would go with Asriel due to him being already infinitely above other 2-A's in his base and EVEN MORE with his full power.Elvis Adika said:
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@xenomorphis the 2-A being who Asriel is infinitely above is much weaker than the 2-A beings YHVH is above, by an infinite amount. Also that's ignoring the fact that YHVH is nigh-omniscient, possesses superior immortality, and has instant death magic. But I guess this is a stomp match now that YHVH's been upgraded so none of that matters anyway
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yeah YHVH is now infinite 5-D at full power while base is equal to asriel so going with YHVH if in an all out fight
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Now I had to edit the fight for fairness.
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MagiSinbad said:
We can still use his base/first form, so the fight isn't really "over". On a side note, I can't be the only one who thinks his "true form" is just kind of silly...even more silly than his Glorious Bald Head form.
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