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Existence Erasure vs Reliant Immortality

A conventional EE wouldn't be able to do so since the "real" target wasn't erased and what was erased was a "puppet".
 
Depends entirely on how the reliant immortality works and the extent of the EE. There isn't a general type for either.
 
As far as i understand EE wouldn't work as the nature of this type of immortality bypassing this ability concept.

talking about concept i can't see any way that EE can erase concepts... maybe it's just me though.
 
That would be a more specific type of Reliant Immortality, but in principle is simple: as long the object/being/spirit/concept remain intact, the being bounded for wouldn't die regardless if it is killed, erased, destroyed, disitegrated or negated.
 
Antoniofer said:
That would be a more specific type of Reliant Immortality, but in principle is simple: as long the object/being/spirit/concept remain intact, the being bounded for wouldn't die regardless if it is killed, erased, destroyed, disitegrated or negated.
So if you bound to an object for instance and object as far as i concerned can be erased for existence so EE does work on this type of immortality...

everything here can be erased except concept and maybe spirit...
 
No no, you misunderstood, the object, being, spirit can be destroyed or killed normally (depends of its characteristics), but no matter what happen to the character that reliant on it, as long the reliant element still intact it will remain alive.

Naturally, one can't just destroy a concept, it would be needed Concept Destruction to do so, that, or the concept is materialized making it vulnerable (don't think there's much verses that do that). Another obtion is to remove the link between the reliant element and the character, but it is an inusual power.
 
Antoniofer said:
No no, you misunderstood, the object, being, spirit can be destroyed or killed normally (depends of its characteristics), but no matter what happen to the character that reliant on it, as long the reliant element still intact it will remain alive.
Naturally, one can't just destroy a concept, it would be needed Concept Destruction to do so, that, or the concept is materialized making it vulnerable (don't think there's much verses that do that). Another obtion is to remove the link between the reliant element and the character, but it is an inusual power.
Yes, i got it i just said that with EE you can affect a being or an object and by that "easily" killing the same being that has this type of immortality, but concept you can't just erase by EE, therefore, a being that bound to a concept wouldn't be fully erased as the concept still exist.
 
And i know it's not entirely connected to the thread but what your opinion about a being who has no concept at all, meaning that he is outversal and have no concept what so ever can he get even killed in any way? or be called abstract while he has no concept of anything to be an abstract of?
 
Welp, it depends of how the immortality works, the user can be either invulnerable or it can resurrect/reincarnate, in the last case it can be killed, erased or destroyed.
 
Antoniofer said:
Welp, it depends of how the immortality works, the user can be either invulnerable or it can resurrect/reincarnate, in the last case it can be killed, erased or destroyed.
Is that an answer to the first or the second replay? because i can connect them to both xD
 
Antoniofer said:
That was the first question, as for the second one that would be any 1-A character (that possesses Omnilock), but by powers it can be the most advanced type of Nonexistance or Concept Transcendence.
First, i couldn't quite understand how Omnilock works but take Oblivion as an example what do you think he should be as he is nothingness in his nature, does he beyond all concepts or just transcend them?


And let say for instance that a being who should be standing hierarchically higher than this being (the none-conceptual one), he said to be the superior being of this verse, can he affect being which is Omnilock? or transcend all concepts?
 
Sorry, I do not known about Oblivion to respond to that, and I feel like we already delayed this thread enough.
 
Oh, ok but what about the second question?

"And let say for instance that a being who should be standing hierarchically higher than this being (the none-conceptual one), he said to be the superior being of this verse, can he affect being which is Omnilock? or transcend all concepts?"
 
Q ShadoW Q said:
Oh, ok but what about the second question?
"And let say for instance that a being who should be standing hierarchically higher than this being (the none-conceptual one), he said to be the superior being of this verse, can he affect being which is Omnilock? or transcend all concepts?"
nvm, i think i got the answer
 
If you understanding at nonexistence and stuff like that i would love to hear your input at a thread i posted a pretty long one has to admit but didn't got respond yet,i thought you could help me, so if you have a spare time i would be happy if you will leave your opinion there, Thank you :)

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depends. If EE just erasing soul, mind, body to nothingness it's not enough to kill char that has bound with concept. But if you have conceptual EE then you can kill that char
 
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