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Frisk has two stripes.Gnomishness said:Also, the animation is Flawed; Frisk's shirt only has one strip.
How is it a stomp? Serious question. I know the previous interrogative sentence can be seen otherwise. Anyway, the unknown rating gives me a wide range of tiers he could face, and durability ingnorance and reality warping could be helpful, along with self-ressurection.MagiSinbad said:This... look like a stomp
This is coming from a Medaka Box's fan
No, please! Have mercy! SPARE me, please! lolAzathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:>Frisk's shirt has incorrect number of stripes
Worst crime in the history of man
Thread expunged from records
Cal banned for one million years
Is it a 2B rating?The real cal howard said:@Gnomishness
The Frisk that warrants the 2-B rating, although I believe it's the same Frisk, as he still time travels between the two routes, only canonically stopping when he gets the True Pacifist ending.
Depends if the Frisk is Pacifist or Genocide. But if it's Pacifist, then it's determined by how much DETERMINATION Frisk has during the fight.Gnomishness said:Is it a 2B rating?The real cal howard said:@Gnomishness
The Frisk that warrants the 2-B rating, although I believe it's the same Frisk, as he still time travels between the two routes, only canonically stopping when he gets the True Pacifist ending.
I thought it was higher than that...
If Asriel, a 2A character, had trouble finishing off Max-determination, True-Pacifist Frisk, I would've thought Frisk's Durability would have also been in the realm of 2A.
Frisk's durability is 2-A. Durability doesn't determine tier. Frisk couldn't hurt Asriel, but he could hurt Flowey, albeit minimally, which warrants 2-B. And to Mirthful, this is THAT Frisk, not Frisk/Chara.Gnomishness said:Is it a 2B rating?The real cal howard said:@Gnomishness
The Frisk that warrants the 2-B rating, although I believe it's the same Frisk, as he still time travels between the two routes, only canonically stopping when he gets the True Pacifist ending.
I thought it was higher than that...
If Asriel, a 2A character, had trouble finishing off Max-determination, True-Pacifist Frisk, I would've thought Frisk's Durability would have also been in the realm of 2A...
Sorry. I was under the impression that only a character's highest stat type is typically used to determine their tier and that the lower sides of their stats don't typically bring it down.The real cal howard said:Frisk's durability is 2-A. Durability doesn't determine tier.
So Neutral Frisk? I think that there is the 'potential' for all-fiction to work here.The real cal howard said:Frisk couldn't hurt Asriel, but he could hurt Flowey, albeit minimally, which warrants 2-B. And to Mirthful, this is THAT Frisk, not Frisk/Chara.
No, Asriel was explicitly trying to erase Frisk so that he could just reset everything. That's the whole reason Frisk was so determined to stay alive. If Flowey killed them, they could always try again, because Flowey simply wanted to torture them and mess with them. If they had been fully destroyed by Asriel, that would be it. They'd have to start over.Kami95 said:Tecnically, Asriel didn't want to erase Frisk, he just wanted to play with him forever, so I'm not sure he tried to erase Frisk from existence, he probably just deleted his save file to force Frisk to restart everything.
Depends. If Frisk can harm God Flowey (albeit slightly), they can theoretically just break reality (like Chara did), buuuuut...that doesn't seem like the kind of thing they'd do.Kami95 said:It makes sense. Ok then, Frisk would probably win, if he has enough determination when the battle starts (unless All Fiction can erase determination itself, but it probably can't).
Oh, wait, wouldn't Kumagawa still resurrect? Maybe Frisk can't lose against him, but can he permanently kill him? Or would it be an endless battle?
Pretty much, yes.Blahblah9755 said:So in character it's inconclusive, but out of character it's a stomp for Frisk?
There's a big difference between willing to kill and willing to end the universe thoughThe real cal howard said:VsBattles Rules state that this is in character, but willing to kill.
Doubtful. All Fiction has never shown to work on a beyond universal scale (which Determination has), and by Determination's very nature, it would likely go like this.Eldritch abomination said:can't All fiction turn frisk's determination into something else like depression, sickness?
Determination is one of the biggest "Nopes" to other OP characters, that I've ever seen.Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:Doubtful. All Fiction has never shown to work on a beyond universal scale (which Determination has), and by Determination's very nature, it would likely go like this.Eldritch abomination said:can't All fiction turn frisk's determination into something else like depression, sickness?
>All Fiction attempts to change the nature of Determination
>Determination refuses to change. Because it's too Determined.
That's pretty much how the power works.
Time being erased probably wouldn't affect Frisk. They kept fighting Asriel even after he had erased the timeline.Blahblah9755 said:Well as long as Frisk doesn't take him out straight away, Kumagawa should be able to erase time to make his attack instant (since it's basically time stop) but Frisk could take him out in one blow if he wanted to and with standard vsbattles assumptions he probably would. And who knows, with something on the level of determination they might just be determined to not have their time erased
Frisk wasn't able to fight back, sure, but Asriel was infinitely more powerful than them, literally. If you're referring to Frisk being unable to move during a certain move, that was because Asriel probably was doing something to stop them.Blahblah9755 said:Wait but weren't they unable to really perform any action? So it might still take effect?