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Pokemon SM Episode 101

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So no pretext. Just gonna get right to the scans.

Parallel poke 1
Parallel poke 2
Parallel poke 3
Parallel poke 4
Size of the Pokeverse is even larger. I'll put it in the blog if this is accepted.
 
It won't ever happen, you know that.

I'd need more context though. It doesn't say what causes those splits.
 
Evidence denied cause Cal can't have nice things ovo

EDIT: In all seriousness, Rot's and Cal's scans don't say specifically that something doing X = a new universe and stuff like that, but it's pretty heavily referring too this so I'm neutral
 
Saikou The Lewd King said:
It won't ever happen, you know that.

I'd need more context though. It doesn't say what causes those splits.
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Parallel poke 5
Parallel poke 6
Parallel poke 7
Dark Timeline Red Dia implies that taking different paths results in splits.
 
Considering generic "countless" doesn't hold value anymore (this isn't throwing shade, btw), I'm gonna have to explain it in math.

3,000,000*countless*8(?)*n

As n approaches infinity.
 
The real cal howard said:
Considering generic "countless" doesn't hold value anymore (this isn't throwing shade, btw), I'm gonna have to explain it in math.
3,000,000*countless*8(?)*n

As n approaches infinity.
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You forgot a couple 0's behind that 3, my dude.
 
Actually, doenst the Lets go games make the number larger by a decent extent?

The games sold over 3 million copies in the first week it was released IIRC.
 
Nothing relevant.

Multiverse theory wont make the number of universes go higher with only those statements. And you unironically try to use the parallel worlds (that come from the games)you calculated as base for your neo-inflated results (using stuff from the anime as if they were the same continuity). Lol. Seriously, you are trying too hard to make pokemon go > Dragon ball.

You get "countless" universes. And that's about it.
 
No.

Please elaborate?

The guy is just explaining how multiverse theory works. The guy didnt say "there is a different world for each decission" or "every action we take makes a different world". The guy talks about "paths" and how each "path" leads to a different "future" (which is basically multiverse theory again).

Canon db also has multiverse theory. And you dont see everyone saying they have nigh-infinite timelines. Even then, we already have that calculated number of parallel worlds which according to this come from different "paths". So... Nothing new.
 
Heck, if you want an example:

Legend of Zelda already has a canon number of timelines. Which differ from actions performed by Link/Ganon (Link loses, ganon wins, etc). That's multiverse theory, but not every action performed by Link gives birth to a new timeline (say, Link defeated ganon with X number of slashes = a timeline, he did it with X+1? = another one, and in another one it was X-1). That's why we cant start slapping infinite possibilities for everything unless there is evidence that suggests so.
 
TriforcePower1 said:
@PaChi2 So, basically, he's just saying that spits happen but he doesn't say why they do, right?
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Yes, the guy says "there are splits" but doesnt give a hint about what are the conditions required for those splits to happen.

The best thing you can go by is still that number that was calculated because:

No proof that those parallel universes dont come from the splits explained here. "Countless but in crescendo".

So... No upgrade. And no bigger. Sorry.
 
PaChi2 said:
That's multiverse theory, but not every action performed by Link gives birth to a new timeline (say, Link defeated ganon with X number of slashes = a timeline, he did it with X+1? = another one, and in another one it was X-1).
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Viridi did say that in Smash about the Zelda verse, though ovo
 
The real cal howard said:
Considering generic "countless" doesn't hold value anymore (this isn't throwing shade, btw), I'm gonna have to explain it in math.

3,000,000*countless*8(?)*n

As n approaches infinity.
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Calc stacking at its finest.
 
Pretty sure that those "splits" would already be part of the 300 million and stuff.
 
In fact, I do not see how this can be very different from what we already have. Each copy of the games is already accepted as a different universe because of several mentions in them, clearly the games can be different or equal because of variations in the decisions of each player that lead to different results in each game.

It is not as if this would increase the number of universes, it is only a support for what we already have. Pokémon has an unknown number of universes, many of which are similar to each other with small or large differences made because of some decisions in simillar past. This has always been so, this is only a direct clarification of this.
 
The context indicates that this only happens when someone from a world travels to another world using the Ultra Space.
 
Parallel poke 5
Parallel poke 6
Parallel poke 7
Dark Timeline Red Dia implies that taking different paths results in splits.

This scan actually sounds like it goes against the point. It clearly refers to the future being affected by past events being changed. If different decisions lead to new worlds then Ash's world shouldn't be affected at all. It won't be his world.
 
In fact this just means that in Dia World, something very bad occour that leads to that future. If the wrong path is chosen, then the world of Ash would have a similar fate, any choose leads to some future, some similar, other different, it's all about what path they'll chose.
 
PaChi2 said:
Nothing relevant.
Multiverse theory wont make the number of universes go higher with only those statements. And you unironically try to use the parallel worlds (that come from the games)you calculated as base for your neo-inflated results (using stuff from the anime as if they were the same continuity). Lol. Seriously, you are trying too hard to make pokemon go > Dragon ball.

You get "countless" universes. And that's about it.
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For one, the stuff in bold is 100% uneccessary and un-called for.

Two, you have any evidence that the "parallel worlds" are reffering to the game copies? We know the game copies are each individual universes because of the Entralink, not that they're made from players taking different decisions to make new universes. That has never ever been stated.

Third, Cal's base for the "calculation" was based off only the game's universes from what I see. He didn't include anything from the anime, which is connected to the games continuity for multiple reasons his blog lists out.
 
"For one, the stuff in bold is 100% uneccessary and un-called for.

Two, you have any evidence that the "parallel worlds" are reffering to the game copies? We know the game copies are each individual universes because of the Entralink, not that they're made from players taking different decisions to make new universes. That has never ever been stated.

Third, Cal's base for the "calculation" was based off only the game's universes from what I see. He didn't include anything from the anime, which is connected to the games continuity for multiple reasons his blog lists out."

For one, it wasnt uncalled for, at all. This thread steems from the recent Dialga vs Goku and Demigra threads. And dont pretend it doesnt. Cal copy pasted the scans in hope of a quick upgrade so that he could revert the results in both threads.

Second, I dont need evidence as one thing doesnt contradict the other, it just expands the parallel world thingy explained in the games. Game says there are alternate worlds, anime says that parallel worlds are created through "path"s. Its the same concept.

Third, games already state that there are countless worlds. The calculation is a estimation of the number of worlds based on the copies of games.
 
"This thread steems from the recent Dialga vs Goku and Demigra threads. And don't pretend it isnt."

Because it was agreed it should be taken to another thread to be evaluated and accepeted before using it as an argument in the match? So seriously, what exactly is your point here? It wasn't called for. It was following rules of a CRT, which should be quite obvious. Especially for someone who complained about pokemon material being added in in the middle of a thread not originally made for it earlier.

"It's the same concept."

It really isnt. The concept of the individual game copies being "alternate worlds" comes from the entire existence of the Entralink. Therefore, you saying they stem from being made from different decisions among players needs explicit evidence to refrute that or else its entering headcanon territory.

And the last point is just agreeing with what I pointed out, that the calc was based on the number of game universes.
 
Xerkser500 said:
"This thread steems from the recent Dialga vs Goku and Demigra threads. And don't pretend it isnt."

Because it was agreed it should be taken to another thread to be evaluated and accepeted before using it as an argument in the match? So seriously, what exactly is your point here? It wasn't called for. It was following rules of a CRT, which should be quite obvious. Especially for someone who complained about pokemon material being added in in the middle of a thread not originally made for it earlier.

"It's the same concept."

It really isnt. The concept of the individual game copies being "alternate worlds" comes from the entire existence of the Entralink. Therefore, you saying they stem from being made from different decisions among players needs explicit evidence to refrute that or else its entering headcanon territory.

And the last point is just agreeing with what I pointed out, that the calc was based on the number of game universes.
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Sigh.

1) I dont really care. And its not the point of the thread.

2) Extra link doesnt prove that those alternate worlds are different from ones created by the Multiverse theory. More evidence is required sorry.
 
And with all due respect, I dont either. Not to throw shade, but you were the one who brought up that condescending comment about this thread's existence, saw it was flawed, and countered it.

Anyway, the Entralink's entire existence actually does prove its different. Players connect to the worlds of other players, meaning those worlds would have to be already existing ones in order for that to happen. Thats not the same as alternate worlds being created from different paths like the Multiverse Theory says.

More evidence being required may be one thing, but the Entralink is not an argument to dismiss this.
 
Question: Why don't we use this statement?

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It would probably upgrade the number by a ton. That would make the total number be (current nuber of universes)x(number of people/dreams in an universe)+(current number of universes)

A bigger number, but it's not really changing much.
 
"The result" as in Dialga vs. Goku?

..I'll ignore the fact that it's pretty pathetic to try and focus on upgrading a character from a verse only to try and make it defeat another character.
 
Also, every dream being its own reality would easily upgrade the number of parallel universes from the hundreds of millions to the billions in the low-end.
 
Can we, like, stop mentioning a vs matchup as a way to argue about this?

Whats done is done. The material was mentioned in the thread but it has its own thread now to discuss the leigitmacy, like it's supposed to.
 
You were the one who mentioned wanting to change the "result" as a reason for why the statement wasn't important. Maybe I interpreted you wrong but that sure seemed a rather shady statement to make, on that context.
 
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