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Speed up and increase the level of power in the "Tokyo Ghoul" universe

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Don't know where else they can discuss, maybe someone will see it and add to the profiles.

1)The achievement of Eto with the destruction of the gigantic compactor as a low-level citi-block. She destroyed it with oneshot. Weight calculations somewhere in the tens of thousands of tons, and this is a citi-block isn't it? In Durability can be put is the same as in Attack Potency.
2)Kaneki, "Black Reaper" destroyed kakuja Eto oneshot. The Kaneki OEK > Kaneki BR. However, Kaneko OEK can't get through Amon kakuja. I think this gives the citi-block in Amon's durability. And also this gives citi-block+ Seido's Attack Potency and displays a one-eyed ghouls in the top tiers.
3)Kaneki dodged Narukami's lightning. Why is it not given him a massively hypersonic?

(Sorry my bad english, I used a translator)
 
NikHelton said:
3)Kaneki dodged Narukami's lightning. Why is it not given him a massively hypersonic?
I don't really know TG verse well, but given this sentence I can tell you that what you propose can't really be accepted, unless, do you have scans for this feat, it may avail something?
 
Konaguna said:
NikHelton said:
3)Kaneki dodged Narukami's lightning. Why is it not given him a massively hypersonic?
I don't really know TG verse well, but given this sentence I can tell you that what you propose can't really be accepted, unless, do you have scans for this feat, it may avail something?
Here are multiple achievements with dodging Narukami's lightning (This did as Kaneki so and other characters)

1)http://mintmanga.com/tokyo_ghoul/vol14/139?mtr=1#page=10 2)https://*********.me/manga/tokyo-ghoul-re/i1046887/c069/7 3)https://*********.me/manga/tokyo-ghoul-re/i1046886/c070/14
 
Now about 1 and 2 issue:

With the calculator I got a mass gigantic compactor of 150,000 tons, and the destruction of this is already the level of citi-block I think.

1)Eto easily destroyed the gigantic compactor. I think its durability matches the attacking potential.

2)Kaneki "Black Ripper" breaks kakuja Eto in one attack

3)Kaneki Post-Cochlea is stronger than Kaneki "Black Ripper"

4)Kaneki (Post-Cochlea) can't get through Amon kakuja

5)Seido get through Amon kakuja several times and even completely destroys armor

6)Amon and Seido fight on an equal footing in this battle.

7)I think it is at least a reason to increase durability and attacking potential Amon and Seido (on citi-block+ lvl) and add them to top tiers
 
I do have some couple of concerns myself:

1) Post-Dragon Kaneki should be 8-A not 8-C since this is supposed to be Kaneki at his strongest, so it makes no sense why Dragon Kaneki is 8-A, but Post-Dragon Kaneki isn't.

2) Furuta should easily be scaled to 8-A since he is the most powerful being that ever existed until Post-Dragon Kaneki with plot armor managed to defeat him.

3) Arima shouldn't be 8-C since he casually beaten Eto without even trying, and that Eto is 8-C herself, he should instead be 8-B, same with Arata Joker Juuzou.

4) Post-Cochlea Kaneki kept up with Arata Joker Juuzou who moves like lightning, so his speed clearly be massively hypersonic+, same with Arata Joker Juuzou, Arima, Post-Dragon Kaneki, and Furuta.

5) Kakuja Eto is so huge in size in comparison to her father Kakuja Yoshimura that it's not even okay to call her 8-C, she should instead be High 8-C.

6) Why is Hanbee missing a profile??? That dude was on par with Juuzou, or perhaps slightly weaker!
 
JohnCenaNation said:
I do have some couple of concerns myself:
1) Post-Dragon Kaneki should be 8-A not 8-C since this is supposed to be Kaneki at his strongest, so it makes no sense why Dragon Kaneki is 8-A, but Post-Dragon Kaneki isn't.

2) Furuta should easily be scaled to 8-A since he is the most powerful being that ever existed until Post-Dragon Kaneki with plot armor managed to defeat him.

3) Arima shouldn't be 8-C since he casually beaten Eto without even trying, and that Eto is 8-C herself, he should instead be 8-B, same with Arata Joker Juuzou.

4) Post-Dragon Kaneki kept up with Arata Joker Juuzou who moves like lightning, so his speed clearly be massively hypersonic+, same with Arata Joker Juuzou, Arima, Post-Dragon Kaneki, and Furuta.

5) Kakuja Eto is so huge in size in comparison to her father Kakuja Yoshimura that it's not even okay to call her 8-C, she should instead be High 8-C.

6) Why is Hanbee missing a profile??? That dude was on par with Juuzou, or perhaps slightly weaker!
1)In my scaling of Kaneki post-Dragon one attack gutted a tentacle Dragon, the volume of which is equal to = 850 meters cubed. At the beginning of TG: Re we were told that the strength of kagune is equal to steel. It turns out Kaneki destroyed 850 cubic meters of steel, and this is the minimum level of the town.
2)I think Takizawa at least comparable Furute. Kaneki is stronger than Furuta at the time of the Dragon's arch. The difference between the level of Furuta and post-Dragon Kaneki is comparable to the difference between Kaneki King and Kaneki post-Dragon. I think Furuta is equal to or slightly stronger than Kaneki King. I proved that the power of Seido higher than that of Kaneki King. Takizawa needs to be approximately equal Furute.
Moreover, the Eto should have at least the citi-block in durability, Kaneki punched her. However, he did not punch Amon and perhaps this means that the durability of Amon and the Takizawa's attack potency at the level of multi citi-block.


3)When Arima ACCIDENTALLY and without TRYING to beat It? Under battle on 20 area was fiction. She lost the only time, but then she got stronger. I don't think there's a huge gap between them.


4)Arata Joker Juuzou fought not post-Dragon Kaneki, but Kaneki King


5)I think Eto's tier is 8-B


6)I also believe that we need to make profiles UI Koori and Hirako, because they are very strong investigators, close to Suzuya. The Ui was at least compatible with Juuzou without Arata-Joker. In the last chapters. Hirako has parity with Koori.
 
NikHelton said:
1)In my scaling of Kaneki post-Dragon one attack gutted a tentacle Dragon, the volume of which is equal to = 850 meters cubed. At the beginning of TG: Re we were told that the strength of kagune is equal to steel. It turns out Kaneki destroyed 850 cubic meters of steel, and this is the minimum level of the town.
Get this put in an official calc and evaluated as usable, and done.

Lightning timing is iffy because it's possible Narukami is actually just shooting electrified kagune cells, like Tatara breathes superheated kagune cells, which would not move as fast as actual lightning.
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
@Nik
Have you put it in as an official calc?
Okay, first I'll take a borrowed scaling of the times of Tokyo Ghoul to pick up the speed each character of the universe.

Kaneki height = 1.7 meters;

Kaneki length of the legs = 0,255 meter;

Floor unit height = 1.7 / 4 = 0.425 meters;

Distance between Kaneki and lightning= 0.5 meters;

Lightning speed (take the value above the "slow" lightning): ~ 5 000 km / sec = 5 000 000 m / sec;

Timing= 0,5 / 5 000 000= 1 × 10^-7 seconds;

The distance that Kaneki overcame= 1.7 meters.

By plugging in S= D/T:

Ken Kaneki's speed= 1.7 / 1 × 10^-7= 17 000 000 m / s. Mach 51 288 (5.3% of the speed of light)

Sub-relativistic+ Kaneki

Not bad

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As we can see-this is quite powerful, given that in TG:Re any character of the middle-high tier is comparable to Kaneki times of the first part.

Now comes the scaling for the battle with Arima:

The situation is this -Arima shoots Narukami lightning at Yomo. Renji looks death straight in the eye, but at the last moment Kaneki appears, covering Yomo kagune.

Using the standards of proportions we get that the height of a person is 8 goals. Growth Yomo on profile will total 182 cm.

The height of the head:182 / 8= of 22.75 ~ 28 cm;
Head length: 148 pixels;
Distance between Yomo and lightning: 314 pixels;

Distance: 314 / 148/ 28=314 / 5,3 = 59 ~ 60 cm.

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I note that on this frame and the frame shown before next to Yomo no one was. So Ken covered the distance at the last minute. Besides, judging by the position of his hands, he came from the left side.


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• Since Yomo has bent over on this page I will venture to assume that its height is 1.5 m.

150 centimeters = 25 pixels;
1 pixel = 6 cm;

Assume that Kaneki is on the frame, but covered with a flash of lightning:

Distance between Yomo and flash: 160 pixels;
Distance: 160*6=960 centimeters= 9.6 meters.


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Since we do not know the exact speed of lightning, then I have 3 options from which we will proceed:

• Low-average lightning speed (based on previous scaling): 5 000 000 m / sec;
• Average lightning speed (200k+140k/2): 70 010 000 m / s;
• High lightning speed: 140 000 000 m / sec.

1)Timeframe = 0,6 / 5 000 000 = 1,2 × 10^-7 seconds;
The distance that Kaneki covered = 9.6 meters;
Kaneki speed: 9,6 / 1,2 × 10^-7 = 2 880 000 m / sec. Mach 347 553. (38% speed of light)

2)Timeframe = 0,6 / 70 010 000 = 8,6 × 10^-9;
The distance that Kaneki covered = 9.6 meters;
Kaneki speed: 9,6 / 8,6 ├ù 10^-9 = 1ÔÇë116ÔÇë279ÔÇë069 m / sec. Mach 3 367 764. (x3,72 Speed of Light)

3)Timeframe = 0,6 / 140 000 000 = 4,28571429 ├ù 10ÔêÆ9;
The distance that Kaneki covered = 9.6 meters;
Kaneki speed: 9,6 / 4,28571429 ├ù 10ÔêÆ9 = 5ÔÇë581ÔÇë395ÔÇë348 m / sec. Mach 6 735 528. (x7,45 Speed of Light)

Subtotal:

1)Relativistic+

2)FTL

3)FTL

Sounds crazy, but very cool
 
JohnCenaNation said:
I do have some couple of concerns myself:
1) Post-Dragon Kaneki should be 8-A not 8-C since this is supposed to be Kaneki at his strongest, so it makes no sense why Dragon Kaneki is 8-A, but Post-Dragon Kaneki isn't.

2) Furuta should easily be scaled to 8-A since he is the most powerful being that ever existed until Post-Dragon Kaneki with plot armor managed to defeat him.

3) Arima shouldn't be 8-C since he casually beaten Eto without even trying, and that Eto is 8-C herself, he should instead be 8-B, same with Arata Joker Juuzou.

4) Post-Cochlea Kaneki kept up with Arata Joker Juuzou who moves like lightning, so his speed clearly be massively hypersonic+, same with Arata Joker Juuzou, Arima, Post-Dragon Kaneki, and Furuta.

5) Kakuja Eto is so huge in size in comparison to her father Kakuja Yoshimura that it's not even okay to call her 8-C, she should instead be High 8-C.

6) Why is Hanbee missing a profile??? That dude was on par with Juuzou, or perhaps slightly weaker!
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:NikHelton/Hypersonic_in_"Tokyo_Ghoul"

Check it please
 
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