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This is Arceus's evidences for Omnipresence: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/392757
I will be honest, the evidences are really speculative and looking back these evidences are weak compared to our standard now. It is even described that only Arceus's mind is Omnipresent not his body, in the thread.
So, Arceus at best it is nigh-omnipresence and at worse it is immeasurable.
Arceus's speed downgrade to Infinite would make sense it scale to the Gods tiers like Dialga.
For the physical manifestation argument, he also lost this physical manifestation ability and his Type 9 immortality here: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1900154
Dialga and Palkia have Omnipresence but there are no scans proving so they should downgrade back to Infinite speed. Their speed upgrade were accepted here: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1900154#177
Giratina should be downgraded to back to Infinite speed. His Omnipresent speed came from https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...Part_(Completed)#Pokemon_Platinum_.28Canon.29.
The respect threads also show little to no evidence for Omnipresent speed:
Respect Threads
Acausality (Type 4) for Arceus, Lake Trio and Creation Trio
Self-Sustenence (Types 1, 2 and 3) for Arceus, LT and CT
Abstract Existence (Type 1) for Arceus and CT
Abstract Existence (Type 3) for LT
Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3) for Arceus and CT
Conceptual Manipulation (Type 4) for LT
Avatar Creation for Arceus, LT and CT
About Non-Physical Interaction, this is very normal in the Pokémon Multiverse
I will be honest, the evidences are really speculative and looking back these evidences are weak compared to our standard now. It is even described that only Arceus's mind is Omnipresent not his body, in the thread.
So, Arceus at best it is nigh-omnipresence and at worse it is immeasurable.
Arceus's speed downgrade to Infinite would make sense it scale to the Gods tiers like Dialga.
For the physical manifestation argument, he also lost this physical manifestation ability and his Type 9 immortality here: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1900154
Dialga and Palkia have Omnipresence but there are no scans proving so they should downgrade back to Infinite speed. Their speed upgrade were accepted here: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1900154#177
Giratina should be downgraded to back to Infinite speed. His Omnipresent speed came from https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...Part_(Completed)#Pokemon_Platinum_.28Canon.29.
The respect threads also show little to no evidence for Omnipresent speed:
Respect Threads
- Respect Thread (Part 1)
- Respect Thread (Part 2)
- Respect Thread (Final Part)
- Respect The Creation Trio (external)
Acausality (Type 4) for Arceus, Lake Trio and Creation Trio
Self-Sustenence (Types 1, 2 and 3) for Arceus, LT and CT
Abstract Existence (Type 1) for Arceus and CT
Abstract Existence (Type 3) for LT
Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3) for Arceus and CT
Conceptual Manipulation (Type 4) for LT
Avatar Creation for Arceus, LT and CT
About Non-Physical Interaction, this is very normal in the Pokémon Multiverse