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Possibly 2-A Arceus?
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That guy's reasoning for 2-A is extrapolated. He essentially says that since the reflection cave connects alternate worlds, it can do it ad infinitum. Which is is just his personal head canon without any backing that it's happening all at once. That's high-end 2-B at best.
So yeah... most likely not happening.
So yeah... most likely not happening.
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Yeah it sounds too much like headcanon.
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Yeah, it's headcanon.
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I've never understood this.
Since there's always going to be an infinite amount of these, wouldn't it just be 2-A?
The argument for it is that they're branching, but, by the fact they already exist and have already branched out, it's already infinite, so why is this 2-B?
Since there's always going to be an infinite amount of these, wouldn't it just be 2-A?
The argument for it is that they're branching, but, by the fact they already exist and have already branched out, it's already infinite, so why is this 2-B?
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Arceus has to be able to manipulate, create, and/or destroy an infinite number of universes, but there's no clear sources or info indicating that
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Actually, no, it's a much bigger assumption to say that they're all the same Universes in a closed system instread of them being branching Universes.RotofBots said:
The only thing we've seen is that there's a Universe per mirror reflection, therefore, the first assumption is there's an infinite set of these.
Therefore, Occam's razer dictates that the path of least assumptions, and we're just assuming from what has been shown.
To go with what you're saying, is that there's 1. a Closed system of Universes 2. That all the Universes are just connected to each other.
So, Occam's razer.
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Just to add in a bone from watching some other threads, didnt someone mention something about the universes in Pokemon being infinite in size? Not amount but as in the size of each universe.
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Being infinite in size isn't enough to qualify for 2-A
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By all means, I wished Arceus was 2-A, too, just so we can have Llama God vs Goddoka OR her Satan friend.
BUT, Arceus's feats are high in the 2-B range at best.
BUT, Arceus's feats are high in the 2-B range at best.
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I'm sure Cal would like a redux between Arceus and Archie Sonic.
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If Arceus wound up a 2-A, I could make an argument of him being the strongest non infinite 2-A if I bullshitted enough (like if I said each game had infinite universes), and Arceus does have better hax, but well...Sonic kinda has that AP advantage if I don't bs and it's effective and it makes it a stomp.
(Dialga on the other hand instantly timestops and wins ovo)
That said, Arceus and the trio should be Type 2 abstracts for sure.
(Dialga on the other hand instantly timestops and wins ovo)
That said, Arceus and the trio should be Type 2 abstracts for sure.
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Doesn't Arceus have a bit of Dialga's time manipulation powers, at least? I mean, Arceus DID create Dialga along with the other two dragons.The real cal howard said:
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What kind of conceptual manipulation does Arceus even have anyways, 3 or 2?
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Unfortunately, the bad one. Because people like to be complicated.ShadowWarrior1999 said:
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Godoka and Homucifer are too abstract for Arceus. Arceus beats Homu's mindhax easy (three layers of broken 4-D mindhax resistance), but abstraction makes that a problem.Dragopentling said:
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Ha, a hax Sonic has that is better than Arceus.The real cal howard said:
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Congrats, Sonic (and I mean that)
I still hate that Arceus creates concepts and beats the living crap out of them, but assuming he can destroy them is too much...
I still hate that Arceus creates concepts and beats the living crap out of them, but assuming he can destroy them is too much...
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I mean, if you can beat up literal concepts then you should be able to destroy them.
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As weird as that may sound, not necessarily.
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I heard the idea that Arceus can destroy them by removing them from concept they embody and busting them, which is still impressive, but still...
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That sounds like Homura's conceptual manipulation where she can split someone from the concept they embody.
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Soo...2-A?
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Which im also pretty sure would be the case with Reflection Cave.Udlmaster said:
Each mirror in a cave leads to a different universe and the reflection cave's in those universe's lead to other different universes, which the caves i those universes lead to other different ones and so on.
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