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Dragon Ball Heroes/Xenoverse Infinite speed

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https://imgur.com/a/0nxM2 The Demon Realm isn't apart of time

https://imgur.com/a/wDRA0 It isn't apart of history

https://imgur.com/a/FGpAo The Demon Realm is outside the flow of time

This was accepted before. It was even agreed to be a true void by the majority of the staff, but for some reason it got placed as a type 2.

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1703381

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1706400

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1712347

Kepekley23

"Just a note, I don't think the Demon Realm should be the example for Type 2. It was agreed to be a true void. This whole debate came to be because people were arguing that it being a timeless void wasn't enough. Another example should be used."
 
All Demons and Xeno Goku cause he's constantly potrayed to be superior to most of them, and FW for the same reason
 
I would agree but it seems like it wasn't accepted in the last thread

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1712347

So just to clarify DB Heroes isn't getting infinite speed?

16:39, June 3, 2018



Matthew Schroeder

No.

16:44, June 3, 2018



FTW395

reply to #177

Matthew Schroeder wrote:
No.

Alright, good to know

17:18, June 3, 2018



RapidMotorcycle19

reply to #177

Matthew Schroeder wrote:
No.

Can i ask why? Because i am sure we agreed it should 5 threads ago.

17:21, June 3, 2018



Dragonmasterxyz

Not the place for this people. You want to question whether DBH is Infinite speed, make a separate thread.

17:22, June 3, 2018



RapidMotorcycle19

I think ill do just that, but in a while.

17:25, June 3, 2018

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Matthew Schroeder

It wasn't agreed it would. It was debated extensively and ultimately rejected. Please don't start this all over again Rapid.
 
Majority of staff accepted it as a true void in the final thread for the guidelines, only Matthew was pushing against it. Kep said it was accepted as a true void
 
It would be good if somebody asks Sera, Kepekley, and Azathoth to comment here.
 
I may not agree with 6-D but I agree with infinite speed.

I remember in the last thread many staff agreed aswell.
 
So, I'm going to play the devil's advocate:

From what I'm seeing, it seems that the Realm itself is outside of the Multiverse's time, rather than not there being time inside of the Realm.

I do remember being some scans about the heroes not being able to use time hax in the demon realm because of the absence of time though.

Can someone message Ryu?
 
Let's see

>From what I'm seeing, it seems that the Realm itself is outside of the Multiverse's time

Xeno Goku's SS4 transformation warps/messes with time. However, the Kaioshin of Time reassures him that the Demon Realm isn't a part of time.

Source: https://imgur.com/a/sQbLra1

https://imgur.com/a/0nxM2

Pretty sure him being able to freely using his SS4 form without warping time shows this

We also have Chronoa stopping Mira in time. Mira is so fast that he manages to get out of it. Trunks then comments on Mira's speed by stating "so fast! In just an instant"

Source: https://imgur.com/a/INNsf
 
I always trusted Ever's judgement with this. So I'll stay in my neutrality. Just know that I don't necessarily disagree. That's what's important.
 
This mostly applies to Dragon Ball Heroes, but I also recall the Demon Realm being stated to have no time in Xenoverse too.
 
I asked Kep to message here. Pretty sure he'll be in agreeance cause he was the one pushing for it to be a true void originally
 
Pretty sure only Matt vehemently disagrees with this, so you should ask him to come here to explain.
 
The only arguments I see against this is. Either outlier or inconsistent. Lack of feats. Moving outside of time =/= infinite speed. Somehow debunked because Goku keeps up with them instead of Goku scaling. I feel as though this will likely go nowhere again and ignored. Even though most people agree and more mods agree then disagree,
 
Nobody should get it because the void doesn't fulfill the characteristics of a real void plus it would be an outlier if it did.

Saying that it was accepted by staff before is a definitive lie as it would be on the profiles. It isn't. Xenoverse doesn't have Infinite Speed. That is so obvious to anyone who even plays the games.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
Literally because every feat of speed they have is not infinite.
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Such as?

The characters get a considerable boost since the Heroes BoG saga, where the highest final spee feat is performed.

Besides, it's not like there are a lot of traveling feats that they do via speed at that point. In fact, any at all. They all use teleportation etcetera.

There aren't many things that could contradict this.
 
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