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Sonic (Archie Pre-Genesis Wave) vs Paper Mario.

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Paper Mario likely wins. I think Sonic is slightly faster but Mario is slightly more powerful and Sonic doesn't really have any hax here to win out. I think Post-Genesis Archie Sonic wins though.
 
well pre-genesis has at least 2-C but we don't know much and ultra is very vague so its not really a good idea to add pre-genesis though i think mario wins i don't realy knwo though :/ but post-genesis most likely wins because sonic can easily reset the multiverse though again we need to know his full no just at least so verdict: pre-genesis sonic maybe loses, post-genesis sonic vaguely wins :/
 
TISSG7Redgrave said:
well pre-genesis has at least 2-C but we don't know much and ultra is very vague so its not really a good idea to add pre-genesis though i think mario wins i don't realy knwo though :/ but post-genesis most likely wins because sonic can easily reset the multiverse though again we need to know his full no just at least so verdict: pre-genesis sonic maybe loses, post-genesis sonic vaguely wins :/
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Mario with the pure hearts can do reset/create them as well
 
that came out wrong i meant mario has reached his peak while sonic has room to grow as he still has at least 2-B
 
NotAMarioFan(lol) said:
Well at least is not actually know so or have no definite value of hes 2-B or not its hard to determins post archie sonic
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yeah i think post most likely wins pre is too vague but most likely loses i guess
 
pre-genesis is a bit vague for me so i will say mario for the clarity post-genesis it will be close but leaning to sonic if post
 
I guess so I mean sonic in pre-genesis with ultra is too vague other than its superior to the super form which is at least 2-C though will it make a difference is beyond me post-genesis is better as super is a legit at least 2-B
 
True Enerjak (The 2-A one) is the one that would solo Mario, Super Sonic was only on the level of Knuckles Enerjak on 2-C.
 
Mario's definitely no slouch in speed, I don't see him having too much of an issue with Sonic's speed. Plus Sonic isn't the only one who can manipulate time. He's also just not strong enough to break through Mario's 2-B tier
 
Pikachu942 said:
Mario's definitely no slouch in speed, I don't see him having too much of an issue with Sonic's speed. Plus Sonic isn't the only one who can manipulate time. He's also just not strong enough to break through Mario's 2-B tier
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do you even know how fast Sonic pre-gen is lmfao, we agreed it was greater than wally wests speed, I don't think Mario could keep up with Barry Allen lmao
 
NotAMarioFan(lol) said:
Well, we don't mario's speed but since his tier and ap and durability is higher i don't think his speed wouldn't really matter
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Speed matters in everything how is his AP and dura higher if they're both multiversal?
 
LOL Saying Paper Mario is faster than Archie Sonic means he's faster than the Flash which doesn't make sense at all since Sonic beat him. Sonic would just blitz speed him and rip Paper Mario to shreds before he does anything using the pure hearts. He's only 2-B because of needing every special Star item he need to stand a hell of a chance. Its like me saying if Archie Super Sonic fused with Enerjak, Master Mogul & Titan Tails with the One Billionth Aura altogether and he'll be Tier 0 LOL!! Without the Star items, he's pretty much a normal walking piece of paper. If Super Sonic can beat Enerjak who's at least 2-A, then Paper Mario is in deep trouble.
 
Ddcbryant said:
LOL Saying Paper Mario is faster than Archie Sonic means he's faster than the Flash which doesn't make sense at all since Sonic beat him. Sonic would just blitz speed him and rip Paper Mario to shreds before he does anything using the pure hearts. He's only 2-B because of needing every special Star item he need to stand a hell of a chance. Its like me saying if Archie Super Sonic fused with Enerjak, Master Mogul & Titan Tails altogether and he'll be Tier 0 LOL!! Without the Star items, he's pretty much a normal walking piece of paper. If Super Sonic can beat Enerjak who's at least 2-A, then Paper Mario is in deep trouble.
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Umm. What!? Mario is 2-B because of the "pure hearts" not every single item. Just one.
 
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