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Hellsing Revisions 2: Bloodborne Boogaloo

DMUA

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Upgrade everyone to 4-C scaling to the title of the thread mentioning Bloodborne

legit, this is basically a second sweep through the verse piggybacking off of the unfinished business here

Here we go...

The bois below 9-A
... including base Seras Victoria, Heinkel Wolfe, and Yumiko Takagi (Yumie)

Some are justified by killing Ghouls, but...I don't.. actually remember Ghouls performing any feats that would justify this tier. I mean, Seras does crush one's head at one point, which, according to this (FC/OC I know but a calc's a calc) is Wall level, so, I guess that's that but justifications should be shaken up accordingly.

Now when I said some, I meant only Seras, and the other 2 reek of extreme age and unkemptness. I don't even know if they have the feats to warrant a profile honestly. If they do in the Manga (I just watched Ultimate), correct me, but if they don't, time to H A K A I

Also Integra could probably be 9-A via shattering Alexander Anderso's blades, and upped to High Hypersonic scaling to his actual speed instead of Supersonic

Other stuff
Alexander Anderso doesn't have High-Mid in his base state, he has more Mid Low based off of what the feats show. He should probably have 2 keys in abilities. Speaking of Anderson's regen and the 2 keys he should have, considering Alucard (Hellsing)'s bullets didn't do squat to negate his, I'm very sure his guns are only Limited Regenerationn negation against specific undead that are vunerable to Protestant shenanagins as opposed to something that applies to all kinds of Regen.

Alucard should get a base key and a post schrojkofkjakownafwoiwan (german names are hard to spell) key. Also, his [insert german dude] key should have straight up Omnipresence considering he's described as being "everywhere and nowhere", and his physical manifestation is probably.... just that, a physical manifestation. I dunno, I'll let you guys think about it.

His profile would look like this as a result, coupling in the other stuff I've brought up: Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Enhanced Senses (Extends vision to allow Alucard a range of at least a kilometer with the Casull), Resistance to Illusion Creation and Mind Manipulation, Precognition, Limited Regenerationn Negation with the Casull and Jackal (Can nullify Vampire Regenerationn due to the composition of it's ammo), Familiar Summoning (Can summon undead familiars from the souls he absorbed to serve him, retaining all of the powers they used in life, like Walter, Tubalcai and Rip Van Winkle), Can turn virgins of the opposite sex into vampires, Regenerationn (Low-High, can regenerate from bloody bits), Telekinesis, Telepathy, Mind Control, Blood Absorption, Can devour the souls of others through their blood, Immortality (Types 1, 3 & 7), Intangibility, Levitation/Flight, Shapeshifting, Can control shadows, Illusion Creation, Immunity to all of the known vampire weaknesses, | All the Abilites from before along with Non-Corporeality, Regenerationn (Low-Godly, exists as long as he knows he exists, came back from the disappearance of his physical body after taking care of every single Soul he possessed), Omnipresence

Attack Potency: Small Building level (Comparable to his servant, Seras Victoria as a completed Vampire), Higher in level 1 (Was able to easily kill Luke Valentine and Tubalcain Alhambra, who were able to easily outmatch his base state. Was able to rip out The Monster of God's heart), City Block level with telekinesis (Via this calc) | Unknow (Due to his nature, his capacity to deal out damage is hard to judge), Likely the same as before via a physical manifestation

Speed: Hypersonic+ with High Hypersonic reactions (Reacted to Rip Van Winkle's bullets), Higher in Level 1 (Kept up with The Monster of God) | Omnipresent (According to the Major, so long as Schrodinger is aware of his existence, he can be "everywhere and nowhere".)

Lifting Strength: At least Class 10 (Lifted a super fast fighter jet while in a shadow-composed state with half of his body), Higher in Level 1, Class M with telekinesis (Via this calc) | Unknow, likely the same as before via a physical manifestation

Striking Strength: Small Building Class, Higher in Level 1 | Unknow, likely the same as before via a physical manifestation

Durability: Small Building level, Higher in Level 1, Regenerationn makes him extremely difficult to kill | Unknow, Non Corporeality and Regenerationn make him difficult to kill

Stamina: Limitless, can take on multiple opponents and strong characters in his verse in Level Zero and with restraints without ever exhibiting fatigue, in fact, Alucard was enjoying the battle. Has never tired at all in any of his fights.

Range: Standard melee range, hundreds of meters to a few kilometers with his abilities. | Universal

Key: Pre Schrodinger | Post Schrodinger

Other stuff
Zorin Blitz has no indication of being comparable to the other Nazi Vampires, and she's kinda a one trick Illusion spamming pony regardless. She should probably just be 9-B for brutalizing Seras.
 
Shattering Alexander's blades really shouldn't be considered knowing how incredibly inconsistent their Durability is, even Integra destroyed one in the first episode.

Second, Seras's fight IMO dies t justify 9A when you look at the context of the fight.

Captian actively seeked out Death, and simply tested Seras, as shown by him not staying intangible in his Wild form and showing her how to kill him with him dragging her to the Treasury, Seras even comments at the beginning that he's far too strong for her.

When serious, Captian was able to contend with Walter Dornez and even catch his wires with little damage, knowing this, it simply doesn't make sense for 9A.
 
Maybe not

She was going all "he's too strong", got peptalked, got fighting again, got her arm shattered to Oblivi- fork you're right
 
Heinkel and Yumie are even more featless in the manga than in the OVA. They're street level+ and supersonic+ at best.

The anti-Regenerationn should be removed from Alucard because it is misleading. Reason why base Anderson couldn't regenerate from Jackal was because it dealt too much damage too fast for his Regenerationn to react normally.

Zorin's offense is shit compared to Tubalcain and Rip's, she's wall level at the absolute best. Her speed should also be downgraded. Zorin didn't "survive" the blimp crashing. What happened was that her and her men jumped out of the blimp before it crashed.
 
That's depressing

Yeah, that was more his arm got blown off then anything else

She probably should have "Unknown" speed since she never really goes into straight up combat where she'd have to show it off.

... Heck I missed that

Then again, I wonder... With 1 9-A feat, 1 probably 9-B feat of Alucard getting slammed against a building and 1 probably High 8-C feat, I really wonder if the later really is an outlier... Then again with the whole "Guns are the most powerful weapon in fiction" shenangins Hellsing constantly pulls could serve as severe invalidation.
 
Alucard took a panzerfaust rocket to the face and got blown the **** apart. He's definitely not above Tier 9.

As for the fodder vampires, I can furnish feats for them in a moment.
 
That can be considered an inconsistency to be honest

Although, if the vampires have higher feats, they can likely scale to it by themselves, as Alucard isn't physically as strong as them
 
Alucard usually rips other vampires in half after he decides to stop sitting there getting blasted though. For example, look at Luke Valentine

Alucard sat there getting shot alot, then went into level 1 and turned him to dogchow.
 
@Gar Schnee:

Al getting hurt by a panzerfaust isn't an inconsistency at all, to be perfectly honest. Hell, if it weren't for Newton's Third Law being a thing, I guarantee you we'd have his durability rated lower than his physical tier, because he's constantly getting destroyed by things that really shouldn't be capable of one-shotting a 9-A, just so the author can show off his regen. He's only got one feat that even potentially showcases true Tier 8 durability, and that particular scene is dubious as to whether or not he outright no-sold or just regenerated really fast like he always does.

Don't get me wrong; DMUA is right about him being stronger than the other vampires. A single kick from him completely shattered Tubalcain's kneecap, he impaled Rip Van Winkle with her own gun just by pushing on it really slowly, et cetera.

But there is a lot of evidence against Tier 8, especially when the one feat in question is a durability feat that contradicts every other showing he's got in that area.
 
Yeah.

Hellsing not being able to really tank any big impacts is brutally consistent with it's love of guns and conventional weaponry (not that I blame them the CG on those things are lit as heck), so, Tier 8 would need a bit more then exactly a single instance to not just get written off.
 
TBH Alucard himself is physically weaker then the other higher up characters such as Anderson and Captian.

Captian managed to catch Walters wires which utterly shredded Alucard, and tanked a 9A explosion while Alucard gets destroyed by a rocket
 
To be fair The Captian caught them from an old Walter while Alucard got shredded by a Vampire Walter

Yeah, but those are higher ups. Not quite the run of the mill.
 
Not entirely true actually, Captian caught Wires from a Walter in his prime back during WW2 as well, said wires were able to harm Alucard
 
Is that a thing that happens in the Manga? Sure never flashes back to that in Ultimate.
 
WHAT THE WHAT

DID HULU PULL A FAST ONE ON ME

HULU HECKING DID BUT LUCKILY IT'S ON YOUTUBE

GG TO THE HECKERS
 
Yeah, I definitely don't think Alucard is physically as strong as Walter or The Captain.

Cap straight up kicked his head off his shoulders at one point, IIRC. And you already know what I've said about his fight with Walter.
 
MrKingOfNegativity said:
Yeah, I definitely don't think Alucard is physically as strong as Walter or The Captain.
And we're all scaling to The Captain....

...dang it Kep why have you done this to us
 
To be fair, Hellsing's scaling has always been an absolute mess, even for people painstakingly knowledgeable on it.

Although it doesn't help that the majority of the wiki flat-out abandoned the last CRT for the verse when it was halfway finished, just because I wasn't here.
 
Yeah

Right well if only we were able to calculate Gas Expansion so we could get that plane calc

but we can't mostly because High 8-C KE
 
I'll be blunt; that plane scene is too questionable to use as a feat anyway. Yes, Al was inside of the plane when it nosedived into the ship and exploded, but it's left completely unclear as to whether or not he had to regenerate from the damage. (Which, considering every other showing he's had in the series, is a lot more likely than him just walling a plane explosion with no harm whatsoever)

It also doesn't help that the scene immediately after that is the one where he gets blown to shit by a panzerfaust projectile.
 
Hellsing: Where all your dreams are crushed to unfathomable degree by the only feats you get out of it being loaded with one form of heckery or another
 
I myself think 9A should only scale to the Captian, and am personally unsure where Walter or Anderson Fair
 
Walter probably scales to the Captain, although he's still weaker. Nevermind. I just remembered that both times they've been shown fighting, the Captain was clearly the superior of the two.

Base Anderson is at least as strong as Alucard, and Nail Anderson was beating the shit out of him.
 
That said, considering Captian my Captian is supposed to be stronger then Alucard, what'll we have Alucard at?
 
No clue. He should be 9-B at the very least, but he may have other feats I'm missing.

In the meantime though, I went and grabbed some Last Battalion vampire feats from a kill count video and some other places. I'll post those in a moment.
 
He still has easily killing the likes of Tubalcain Alhambra and Rip Van Winkle, each having above Wall level feats.
 
Fodder feats inbound.

Strength
Can easily decap a normal human.

Letzte battaillon decap
Can tear soldiers in half, one-handed.

Letzte battaillon tearing
Speed
Casual bullet-timers, capable of effortlessly dodging automatic gunfire. (This is also a strength feat; the vampire in particular manages to bite a man's entire face off, including the front of the skull)

Letzte battailon face rip
Durability
A single Last Battalion vampire can no-sell concentrated arms-fire from what is easily a dozen or more assailants.

Letzte battaillion no-selling bullets
Each and every artificial vampire is capable of surviving falls from hundreds of feet without so much as a scratch.

Leztze battaillon fall damage
This is our absolute baseline. Even Integra is capable of killing these guys with some effort, to say nothing of characters like base Seras and old Walter, who are regularly shown to be far too much for any of them.
 
MrKingOfNegativity said:
Fodder feats inbound. A single Last Battalion vampire can no-sell concentrated arms-fire fire from what is easily a dozen or more assailants.
So what you're saying is that Vampires that Alucard considers failures are more durable then Alucard

... Guns are so powerful they can shoot a hole right through powerscaling
 
I have a smile on my face from that comment that would piss off any Hellsing fanboy who saw it right now.
 
Are Hellsing fanboys even things anymore?
 
But yeah

... We're looking at "At least 9-B" Alucard

.... Who still absolutely curbs Dio

What a time to be alive
 
I'll compile some feats from the series. I have to go now though, so later.

Edit: Nah
 
Wait a second

Now that I think about it

If Alucard's gun negates Regen

Then why was Luke Valentine perfectly fine after getting shot through the head with it?
 
Ah

Alright that at least sticks around
 
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