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In order to not spam the general revision thread I'll list the most important things I found in my blog to discuss here:

Luffy
The first thing I want to discuss is Luffy's resistance to cold temperatures.

In Drum Island Arc we saw Luffy travelling through the kingdom. Drum is always covered in snow and icy winds blows the whole day. Luffy is shown resisting and even ignoring the cold temperatures even at 50 below.

Feats proving this:

Feats countering this:

  • I saw other scan at the beginning of the arc but it was a gag as well.
Got hit by Crocodile's poisonous hook and he kept fighting. I'm listing this because that poison is corrosive and Luffy wasn't affected by it. Crocodile stated that Luffy had the poison within him so he got touched by the poison. (Ch. 205)

Apparently Luffy can recover his stamina by napping. This is a supportive feat because there isn't any kind of Regenerationn covering this but it should be noted though. (Ch. 203)

Zoro
One shot Daz Bones. This is important because Daz is made of steel and was even with Zoro so that means Zoro could one-shot people on this level with Shishi Sonson. (Ch. 195)

Learned to hear the 'breath' of the things. (Ch. 195) Possibly Kenbunshoku Haki?

Nami
Possibly outlier: Defeated Ms. Valentine alongside Vivi while the BW was weighting 10 tons. (Ch. 126)

Correct me if I'm wrong but if I increase my own weight I shouldn't be capable of stand or even stay sit, correct? That would mean that the Kilo Kilo affects the mass of the body instead of the weight. Why? Because Miss Valentine can sit above Usopp and withstand her own weight if he fails her attacks. So that could mean she doesn't control her weight but her mass. If not she'd be crushed by her weight aswell.

Before you say anything related to Miss Valentine being capable of withstand her weight because she has enough lifting strength and/or durability due to sheer power take into account that she has no feats without her DF powers. She only fought using the DF so we should take her as a 'regular' human without the DF.

All of this would mean that Nami and Vivi can one-shot a 10 tons weighted enemy by working together. That's why I said it's a possible outlier. What're your thoughts about it?

Usopp
The best things I found about Usopp are related to his durability.

And when it comes to speed the best feat is this:

Sanji
One shot Bananawani. (Ch. 175) The Bananawani are huge. The average saltwater crocodile weights from 1 to 1.2 tons and they often have a size of 6 meters.

In the previous edition of the blog Sanji got a feat that might upgrade the East Blue Top Tiers and here we got a feat that might support stuff judging by the Bananawani's size. It's needed even if it's irrelevant in the end.

Chopper
Speed:

Durability:



Chopper is resistant to cold temperatures. He was born in Drum Island and he was fine even at fifty below zero degrees. But his fur make him weak against hot temperatures of Arabasta. Nothing of this is added to his profile and it's self explanatory.

Robi
Incapacitated Pell before he reached her. (Ch. 170) Pell flies at this speed and he's a antrophomorfic falcon so he's naturally fast.

Durability Negation? (Ch. 170)

Mr. 1

Wapol
Hiluluk sacrifice's bomb is this powerful and still Wapol was unscathed by it. (Ch. 145)

This would directly scale to Luffy's AP cause he got no problems punching and hurting Wapol and to Crocodile for matching Luffy.

Garp
Garp's Pain Tolerance (Ch. 104 Cover).

I think that's enough. He's unscathed by a big cut in his chest.

Bonus feats



That's all for now.
 
Actually, Resistance to Cold Temperatures is listed in Zoro's Powers and Abilities. High Resistance to Cold Temperatures has been added to Chopper's. Also, in your last blog didn't you note Robin surviving being stabbed by Crocodile as important?
 
Yes but that's a stamina feat that won't change much. I put the most important things IMO.

Well most things on Zoro's part are already in the profile. Again I feel stupid for requesting things already added.
 
@Calaca Vs, mistakes happen to the best of us so you should worry too much about it!
 
Calaca Vs said:
Yes but that's a stamina feat that won't change much. I put the most important things IMO.

Well most things on Zoro's part are already in the profile. Again I feel stupid for requesting things already added.
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I see.

And again, thanks for putting this all together. There are so many feats I've forgotten about in the early arcs of the show.
 
Calaca Vs said:
@Nedge Thanks man.

@RoronaRobin No problem. What do you think about said feats?
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I had mentioned to you in the One Piece General Revisions Pt. 2 thread that I thought Robin was missing some feats, but other than that i thought everything was fine. And I personally thought you made some good points about why Nami and Vivi defeating Ms. Valentine is an outlier.
 
Robin did survive to Crocodile. If she has more feats they should be in Skypiea and Enies Lobby arcs.

I put Nami and Vivi defeating Ms. Valentine as possibly outlier because it's a High 8-C feat. It isn't so outlierish as I first expected.
 
Calaca Vs said:
Robin did survive to Crocodile. If she has more feats they should be in Skypiea and Enies Lobby arcs.

I put Nami and Vivi defeating Ms. Valentine as possibly outlier because it's a High 8-C feat. It isn't so outlierish as I first expected.
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I was referring to Robin disarming Zoro, sprouting hands on the palace gate to hold back the small army trying to break in to save Cobra and Vivi, taking out many officers in Tashigi's squad, and then stomping Tashigi. But none of them are that important, so never mind.

And it looks like I embarrassingly misread you on the outlier thing. By themselves, both Nami and Vivi have been shown to be stronger than the average woman in One Piece. Nami has easily one-shotted regular pirates, marine officers, and a marine captain with her old staff, and she also stopped Ms. Doublefinger's Sea Urchin Charge, which can plow through thick wall. And Vivi sent Luffy spinning with a strike (which also seemed to draw some blood), took a punch from him, then the next time they're shown she has him on the ground repeatedly slapping him in the face. There's also Vivi defeating several of the Billions, tackling Kohza (who was pretty strong even as a child), and then taking out two BW agents higher ranked than she was. So Nami and Vivi's feat of beating 10-ton Valentine together really might not be an outlier.
 
I overall agree of everything, but i would like to discuss about two particular things.

Robin's Durability Negation.

I do not think this can be considered true durabilty negation or at least not fully durability negation, more like her Devil Fruit power is the perfect counter again brute force and brawlers, as she can restring and submit her opponents before they can react, while allowing her to inflicting major damage (like by snapping their necks or their backs), which make sense since she is an expert in assassination meaning she would know which are the most vulnerable points of the human body.

Nami defeating Ms. Valentine.

I do not think it should be considered an outlier, aside the fact that it was a combine effort with Vivi and Ms. Valentione has been off guard (since she was distracted in killing Usopp), powerscaling wise the feat make sense since Usopp and Nami in Abalasta have fought enemies at least as strong as Buggy and Buchi.
 
You should ask Damage3245 to comment here.

That said, I think that this seems to make sense.
 
I didn't ask in his wall cause I spammed this in every One Piece thread but I can do it.
 
RoronaRobin said:
And it looks like I embarrassingly misread you on the outlier thing. By themselves, both Nami and Vivi have been shown to be stronger than the average woman in One Piece. Nami has easily one-shotted regular pirates, marine officers, and a marine captain with her old staff, and she also stopped Ms. Doublefinger's Sea Urchin Charge, which can plow through thick wall. And Vivi sent Luffy spinning with a strike (which also seemed to draw some blood), took a punch from him, then the next time they're shown she has him on the ground repeatedly slapping him in the face. There's also Vivi defeating several of the Billions, tackling Kohza (who was pretty strong even as a child), and then taking out two BW agents higher ranked than she was. So Nami and Vivi's feat of beating 10-ton Valentine together really might not be an outlier.
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Regarding Luffy vs Vivi I think we shouldn't use it as an argument. I don't see Luffy even trying to fight back. I agree with Vivi being strong enough to one-shot Mr 7 and Ms FD as a supportive feat of the 10 tons oneshot. While the official agents aren't related by power I think that only applies to Mr 3 for his plans. The rest of the BW seems to have a pattern in the powerscale. Below Mr 5 it could be more mixed up but some of them like Ms Monday are At Least High 8-C.

Everything else seems to make sense. I referred to Nami stopping Ms DF as an endurance and stamina instead of a strength feat aswell.
 
Stefano4444 said:
Robin's Durability Negation.

I do not think this can be considered true durabilty negation or at least not fully durability negation, more like her Devil Fruit power is the perfect counter again brute force and brawlers, as she can restring and submit her opponents before they can react, while allowing her to inflicting major damage (like by snapping their necks or their backs), which make sense since she is an expert in assassination meaning she would know which are the most vulnerable points of the human body.
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I personally don't think it's durability negation aswell. It's more like strength negation.
 
Yeah, the entirety of Vivi vs. Luffy shouldn't be used since Luffy wouldn't fight her even half as seriously as he really could. But isn't her knocking him down and drawing a little of Luffy's blood with her opening strike another supportive feat of her and Nami one-shotting Valentine?

https://imgur.com/a/KHTdY
 
Please avoid quoting each other back and forth. It spams the thread and makes it hard to read.
 
Luffy didn't get resistance to poison after Crocodile's hook. That would be the case if the hook melts Luffy and later it don't.

>Ice and fire resistance.

No, he was nearly unaffected by the cold at the beggining. He didn't adapt to the temperature.

>Magellan

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think there are RL cases where a person gets a resistance to poison after experimenting several poisoning. They gets an inmunity due to the antibodies so if that's limited Reactive evolution (which I don't think) then every organic character should have it.
 
I agree with with Zoro, Chopper and Luffy's resistance to cold. Luffy's resistance to Corrosion Inducement and Zoro's possible haki. As well as Luffy recovering his stamina by napping.

I agree with Calaca that Luffy doesn't have reactive evolution. I don't think Robin has durability negation.

Other than that Nami and Vivi defeating Ms Valentine shouldn't be an outlier as Nami beat Ms. DF who is at least as strong if not stronger and Usopp (who is comparable to Nami) took hits from her.
 
Cmue0312 said:
I agree with with Zoro, Chopper and Luffy's resistance to cold. Luffy's resistance to Corrosion Inducement and Zoro's possible haki. As well as Luffy recovering his stamina by napping.

I agree with Calaca that Luffy doesn't have reactive evolution. I don't think Robin has durability negation.
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That is pretty much what I think as well.
 
I should say that Luffy's Corrosion Inducement Resistance could be upgraded after Magellan's fight. But I'll read that fight before so I can be sure.

Edit: I forgot to mention that Chopper's Enhanced Senses has the same weakness as the majority. At least his smell can be disturbed with strong smells such as perfums. This needs to be added to Chopper's profile too.
 
Most of these make sense, but Zoro's feat is not suggested to be related to Haki.

Also no Durability Negation for Robin.
 
Damage3245 usually has a good sense of judgement about One Piece.
 
Yeah, recovering stamina by resting isn't exclusive to Luffy.

Also. regarding Dalton that looks like it may be Afterimage Creation, yeah.

As for Luffy's Corrosion Resistance, I'm kinda neutral about it but if he does get it then it should be Limited Corrosion Resistance since he was only given a glancing hit, and nobody really remarked on the fact that Luffy was resisting the corrosive effects.
 
All they did was knock her out of the air (when she was already falling) and make her unconscious, right?

I don't really see what is significant about this feat, especially since Ms. Valentine has no other durability feats and it was an attack that was done by both of them together.
 
@Damage

>Nami and Vivi

As I explained before the Kilo Kilo no Mi it's more like a Mass Mass fruit. Ms. Valentine is durable enough to withstand her own weight even if she fails the attack. Which means she has the mass to do so. She doesn't have feats w/o DF power. Nami and Vivi oneshot her while she was weighting 10 tons.
 
I forgot to put this image.

0205-015
Luffy's shoulder show little to no effect after the poison and judging by the blood in the previous page it's more than a scratch.
 
If I recall correctly, Magallen's poisons (on his horns) had a corrosive effect too and Luffy had to dodge out of the way of it.

As for the Nami + Vivi thing, what rating exactly would that feat given them?
 
Given the fact that was a double attack it's at least 5 tons each and they one shot her so an At Least High 8-C should work.

Once I read Magellan's fight I'll make a proper research about it cause I don't remember which effects Magellan's poison had.
 
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