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Nightmares VS. Nothingness

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Nocturne (Base) VS. Noth (Principalities). Speed is equalized. Battle is equalized in a way that Nocturn Gnosis is high enough to crearly see the Noth and cause complete damage.

Nocturne -

Noth -

Incon - 7 (Mr. Bambu, Apies, Rocker1189, Stillwinston, Jimboy, Weekly, Dargoo)
 
Nocturne:

+ Type 8 Immortality makes it almost impossible for Noth to perma-kill

+ Assuming he could interact with Noth, he'd have plenty of means of incap, ranging from mindhax to sleep hax

+ Can heal himself to keep himself in the fight

Noth:

+ Doesn't exist. AFAIK Nocturne literally cannot interact with him.

+ I believe that, even if Nocturne could interact with a nonexistent being, he'd be immune to perception manip via not perceiving reality in any way that'd be manipulated by Nocturne

+ Can interact with Nocturne even if intangible and all that

+ Type 5 means even if they could interact with him, killing him is pointless.

Verdict:

Incon. LoL has flat out stupid and incomprehensible good hax, but ultimately doesn't seem able to interact with a nonexistent being. Meanwhile, this being that doesn't exist in a traditional sense cannot overcome the Type 8 Immortality. Neither can kill the other.

Note that "existential destruction" could change my mind on this, depending on the context, but... I'd need to see how that works. For now, I vote Incon.
 
Oh, beings of elevated gnosis can interect with Noth, but since they can't be affected status effects bounded by reality, in other words, they can't be affected by anything. You can still punch it cuz they bounded to a physical body, but for example can't mindhax cuz there mind is nonexistent, can't be affected by nothing that do not produce a direct physical damage.

If Nocturn is bounded to a concept then I doubt that being erased from reality would permanently "kill" him, but I do not known how much time it will takes him to recover a body.
 
Hm. That changes things. So... they can't be affected my mind hax because their mind doesn't exist, only their physical body SORT OF exists but is only able to be interacted with by those with spirit energy. Nocturne does seem to have that.

So Nocturne has a win condition. If it takes awhile (as in, more than a day) for his body to regen canonically, then my vote is on Noth. If it takes less than a day, then Nocturne wins by just regenning over and over.
 
@Dargoo, so that's means that Nocturne can instanteneously regen after being destroyed? Cuz its the only FRA written here.
 
My vote's temporary until more light is shed on the regen. At a face-value it looks like it's instantaneous/less than a day.
 
TFW there are actual nonexistent beings in LoL but no one has directly interacted with them...yet...
 
So Weekly, how does Nocturne regen works? According of what I read in another wiki once he is killed he returns to the dreamworld (or something like that). Does it works even if he is erased from reality?
 
Nocturne is the embodiment of the concept of nightmares, he will regenerate and exist as long as the concept exists
 
Needs more timeframe.
 
2-B black holes sounds like illogical imo, at least shouldn't be called in that way. What character do that anyway?
 
...

isn't dark star slang for a butt
 
All right, added that last vote. @Weekly, you haven't voted yet, snd we still do not have a timeframe for the regen.
 
Jimboydejuan12 said:
well guess take my vote for Nocturne FRA.
Look Nocturne profiles has shitton of Haxes and AP Town level.
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Most of his hax if not everything do not work in a Noth.
 
Jimboydejuan12 said:
maybe going changes vote Noth.
This Rule Thread.
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Mmm? I guess you change the vote to the Noth. Anyway, apparently Nocturn can regen instantly from anything as long the concept exist (not sure if it counts if he is absorbed); but in order to make the fight fair I like the statement/source about that, if its not inconvenient.
 
There's two vote left for incon to finish the match, and even so we need to wait for glace period since isn't unanimous.
 
Oh, so you changed your vote, yeah, that is possible. Ok then, match is concluded and going to add this now to both profiles (unless someone wants to do it instead).
 
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