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Doomguy upgrade

Actually, Mr Bambu needs to comment on the thread again; left him a message, but it might be more reasonable to scale him to a stomp/kick rather than a full body ram.
 
Discussing it here would be better, no?

I'll just update the OP with whatevet it's decided on.
 
Being big as a dump truck could translate to being as heavy, and it may not be 100% accurate, but they seem to be Class 50 either way. And to be fair, there are statements about Cyberdemon being Skyscraper sized and the Titan being mountain sized, which would be high up Class M and Class T respectively, but I think those are hyperbolic. Barons and Hell Knights being Dump Truck sized is actually pretty reasonable.
 
I get them being as tall as a dumptruck considering how much taller they are compared to Doomsday, but being the same weight is what I'm worried about. Nothing suggest they weigh 32 metric tons to my knowledge.
 
To be fair, 5 tons is heavy for 12 foot tall ogres; which are the Hunters from Halo's mass. Barons are even taller than that and are extremely buff. Also, demons might be a lot denser than humans. Not to mention even Lost Soul has a Class K lifting strength feat via ripping out spinal cords. Also, most demons in the doom verse actually appear smaller than intended due to game mechanic limitations.
 
A recalc could be done, getting the size of Barons of Hell using inverse square law. Some real world wrestler (maybe Andre the Giant?) could be used for comparison.
 
> Barons are even taller than that and are extremely buff.

I get that. They're likely in the 10+ ton range, I just don't think they're 32 tonners

> Also, demons might be a lot denser than humans.

Are there any statements supporting it? Like with Marvel Asgardians and Olympians having denser muscles

> Not to mention even Lost Soul has a Class K lifting strength feat via ripping out spinal cords.

The Lost Soul has no listed lifting strength
 
I'm pretty sure Barons of Hell are 25 tons at bare minimum, since they're described as being almost as being nearly as big as Dump Trucks. Not really any direct comparisons, but if their volume combined with density of human doesn't measure up, then it's reasonable to consider. Bambu's suggestion for comparing Andre the Giant might be fair, but I don't have the time/energy to calc it at the moment; especially since I got to go to RL work soon.

Lost Soul doesn't have a current feat listed yet, but I found one later on. Therasa Chasar had her spinal cord ripped out by a Lost soul; though, not sure if Doom 3 was canon. It has a different protagonist, but I heard it was actually a prequel to the original Doom if it is.
 
> Bambu's suggestion for comparing Andre the Giant might be fair, but I don't have the time/energy to calc it at the moment; especially since I got to go to RL work soon.

I believe a the calc is worth looking into

> if Doom 3 was canon. It has a different protagonist, but I heard it was actually a prequel to the original Doom if it is.

Assuming there's no greater context then that could scale to a lot of Demons
 
I can try to do a calc for the Baron of Hell size if you like. Your calc can be adjusted accordingly. I personally always figured Barons were Dump Truck size but I have no issue accomodating Qawsed's suspicions.
 
Oh. And I can confirm the Lost Soul Class K thing. They do indeed rip a spinal cord out from a human being just by pushing out of them. I can link the cutscene if you like but it is graphic and potentially disturbing.
 
A calc would help and it would bump up a few possible characters.

> I can link the cutscene if you like but it is graphic and potentially disturbing.

Well as long as only one Lost Soul preforms the feat and it fits with the current spine rip classifications then I have no arugments against it. Unless people want to add a "possibly" rating to it.
 
If it's on YouTube or another platform, it's probably alright. Not sure if directly uploading it to Fandom is a good idea; uploading just about anything to Fandom seems dangerous almost. I don't mind graphic violence personally; otherwise, I wouldn't even be interested in Doom or Mortal Kombat ^^.
 
Oh yeah, I found another feat that might warrant potential upgrades right here. That helix thing pulverized or vaporized the Advanced Research Complex. ATM, we need to revise vaporizing/melting a skyscraper, since melting a skyscraper is currently 7-A and vaporizing one is Low 7-B; which makes no sense at all since vaporization >>> melting. But pulverizing a skyscraper is around 8-A iirc.
 
shit forgot about this one sec
 
Oh shit, that's unfortunate. But Titan would still scale to Doomslayer and both are still overwhelmingly stronger than Cyberdemon, who scales to BFG 9000. However, I did find this feat which would upgrade lost souls to Class K lifting strength which in turn scales to a lot of characters. There might be other in depth lore somewhere. Power Tube was stated to possess more energy than solar batteries and nuclear power plants, but unsure if that's entirely combat applicable. Doom also takes place in the same universe as Wolfenstein, so there might be feats in that series to find scaling.

UAC did have access to nuclear weapons, but where still outmatched against the demons. Though, it's unknown if they could control nuclear weapons like that; the Nuker weapons is sadly non canon since it came from a MOD.
 
I mean

We could just redo the Titan KE feat.

Just Baron of Hell ain't as heavy.
 
For the Titan rework, can we trie to use his actual body instead of scaling his size to the Cyberdemon's body?
 
Though, surprised that despite being taller and buffer than Mgalekgolo, who are 4.8 tons, why somehow come out as lighter, but I digress.

32 tons/2.24247 tons = 14.2699790856. 11.1056405354 Kilotons/14.2699790856 = 778.252054 tons of TNT which is Multi-City Block level+. And as for lifting strength, 1067876.77055 Metric Tons/14.2699790856 = 74,833.8006765 Metric tons which is Class M.

@Karmod, there is no visual body of the Titan, only his skull which has identical anatomy to Cyberdemon is available.
 
Well, that image is oddly angled and you don't see the full body or torso.
 
Thats the entire torso, not to mention that even the Titan's head and Cyberdemon's have various differences.
 
Actually, no it's not. Most of the torso is completely buried. Those are just part of the ribs, where are the arms or the Shoulders?
 
I don't see the shoulders at all, and that arm looks more like part of a spine or tail. Still, most of it is buried and hard to judge, and the weird angle makes it harder.
 
In that case I heavily oppose the use of the Cyberdemon to scale the Titan since even their skull looks different.
 
Titan should still be even more buff than Cyberdemon, and this image below makes it pretty clear cut that the skull alone is way bigger than Cyberdemon. Comparing him to Cyberdemon or any best is a serious lowball if anything.

Titan Head compared to Imp
Until Doom Eternal reveals more info, scaling him to Cyberdemon is the best option for now.
 
I didnt meant total size but body comparassion and if this is the best option then is still better to scrap it, their head have various differences.
 
We don't need to scrap it, and their heads are still similarly shaped, the only difference is that Titan's is more skeletal; human skulls look difference than human faces, so that's not a strong argument. Also, that's only the top half of the Titan's skull, which is very similar if you just include the top half of the Cyberdemon's head. Besides, it's better to calc the actual Titan rather than just say, "overwhelmingly stronger than Cyberdemon."

Anyway, to more important things, I updated the blog. Scroll down to the bottom.
 
>Low 7-C Doomslayer

Laughs maniacally as this means I have more fuel to spite Wooper with
 
Shh don't tell anybody

Though I don't have any legit hard feelings for Wooper I'm just meming
 
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