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Veloxt's Request: Hunter vs Pyra

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She kinda AP stomp really. Assuming Hunter is baseline. He's dead once Pyra notice him. Fortunately, Hunter won't fight head-on.
 
The Hunter may have a wall of hax, but I don't think he's going to be using it with that pathetic range tbh. Pyra appears to be at least 3x stronger, and her thousands of kilometers range can give her great use of her arts from a distance. Not to mention Foresight should basically tell her what to do in this scenario. Not to mention Mythra's got Artifice Siren by her side which will give her the edge. Voting for our Waifu Pyra if that's not obvious.
 
I'm revising that range tbh. It should be hundreds of meters, hundreds of Kilometers with Scoutflies. Also he fought people that has way more range than Pyra.
 
Hundreds of Kilometers or even Orbital, is still less than Pyra's Thousands of kilometers. Also, Artifice Siren is likely Far higher on range. Also, Hunter's best hax abilities still look like they're limited to the lower end of the range spectrum iirc.
 
Wait why would Hunter have hundreds of meters, hundreds of kilometers with Scoutflies?

As for AP. 3x is far from a conclusive factor, but at a long range, yeah. Hunter's best hax is Dragon Element which (I don't remember honestly) may have some passive elements to it but only at close range. It power nulls pretty much everything so long as the opponent is intelligent (or, at least, more intelligent than a rather clever animal).

However, Hunter does have counters to the range advantage that would otherwise make this a huge ordeal. Hunter's level of stealth makes them unseeable even when looking right at them (Ghillie Mantle) and they can resist nearly any elemental damage thrown at them to a huge degree (so much that they are nearly immune to said damage). Once within range, Hunter has a variety of hax options ranging from paralysis and sleep to flat out power null.

So, I'm not sure. Forcefields mean a problem, how good are they for Pyra? If they are indefinite, I think I'd go incon. Pyra wouldn't be able to lower them and still maintain control of a close range fight. If they are not indefinite, Hunter will be able to take her down once they wear down, and her powers will be essentially nullified. The more you know, the more damage you take.
 
Elemental in Xenoblade Chronicles 2, has fairly consistently been shown to work on Atomic or Molecular levels. Nia's Water Manipulation is on a molecular level, Jin's Ice is Absolute Zero, and Mythra's light manipulation involves manipulating the Photons and Artifice Siren reduces targets to particles. Also, Siren is extremely effective for bypassing strong Force Fields and Barriers. Pyra's Force Fields are also quite potent. Just a heads up, Pyra's 2.28 Petaton feat is extremely casual. She and Malos cross swords, and the shock waves destroyed Three living Continents.
 
@DDM Having elemental abilities on subatomic/atomic levels doesn't mean much in this fight. Absolute Zero would be something but we're not fighting him.

How potent are the forcefields? Are they omnidirectional? Do they last for extended periods of time?
 
HoM comes from new frontier update. With magnet spike, he can close the gap of the opponent in an entire area. HoK scoutflies because country sized Ecosystem.
 
Yes, Force Fields are omnidirectional, and the time frame varies. In game, they last 30 seconds ish, but that's more so game mechanics. But in canon, there have been instances of creating force fields around areas that last indefinitely.
 
I think my vote is incon then. If Hunter hits her, her attacks may as well be useless. If her Forcefield goes up, Hunter's Elderseal isn't going to affect her and they're basically locked there.

Question. Can she attack out of the forcefield while it is up?
 
Yeah, she can still call Artifice Siren to attack while her shields up, not sure if she can use Blade Arts though; think she has to briefly lower them for that. But Siren is still OP here.
 
What is Artifice Siren?
 
Siren is pretty much a giant robot Pyra/Mythra can communicate/control Telepathically and can fire lightspeed lasers capable of atomic destruction.
 
Does it have a page or is it lumped into Pyra's page?

also with speed unequalized hunter can react to FTL+ so like i dont think light speed attacks are an issue to dodge
 
Even with that robot though, I'm going Incon. Dodging the robot isn't a huge deal with speed unequalized since Hunter can react to FTL+, and once the forcefield is down, Pyra gets power nulled.
 
Pyra's range advantage is pretty much all we need to know tbh. In the rather optimistic scenario where Hunter gets to her by spamming their awesome version of stealth and using immense resistances to elements (and somehow survives getting berrated), then it becomes Incon due to forcefield spamming.

But yeah, More often than not from 4km (SBA) she just guns down Hunter before they can get to her.
 
I suppose I can also go ahead and close this as well.
 
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