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Leonardo Lionheart vs Count Dooku (1 Vote)

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Two fallen Heroes, both joining and serving the villian.

One joined willingly, the other joined seemingly out of fear. One seeks to be a part of the villians plan, the other wants out of it. One is Merciless, the other is sympathetic. Both once served the old heroes (Yoda and Ozpin), and they wonder what made them fall so far.

....Credits to Bruce for finding this connection, Versions and Speed are both Equal. Fight is at Haven Academy at Night time.

Count Dooku: 6

Leonardo Lionheart:
 
Not my thread anymore, so I'm voting.


Dooku takes this

Dooku is a far more skilled swordsman than Leonardo, and is good at incorporating hand to hand combat into his strikes to catch opponents off guard (such as Obi Wan and the Nightsisters) so he'll take it pretty handily in melee. He also has simply far more impressive showings than Leonardo (holding his own against 2 High 7-C's vs being trounced by a child with less experience than either (and while Oscar inheriting Ozpin's experience factors for quick learning, so does Anakin's status as the chosen one))

Dooku is also gonna win in ranged combat. There is literally nothing Lionheart can do here. Anything he throws at Dooku will be thrown back by Dooku's TK, he has no counter to Dooku choking him (while his aura will protect him from the lightsaber well enough, being a forcefield, but there's no indication it will save him from, say, a choke or an organ grab (ala Vader). Even so, he still can't counter Dooku ragdolling him), or even worst, Dooku just ripping off his duel di-I MEAN, weapon


Also worth noting is that Dooku possesses vastly superior tactical skill, and is much more likely to use the environment to his advantage, such as using objects against Lionheart and throwing them at him, possibly with Lionhearts own projectiles.
 
Can't Dooku just Mindhax? I don't know how strong is Disney SW's mindhax.
 
Oh yeah, Dooku was a Jedi at one point.

I haven't watched the prequels in a long time.

Him for reasons above I guess.
 
Dziga said:
Can't Dooku just Mindhax? I don't know how strong is Disney SW's mindhax.
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Canon mindhax is really bad honestly.
 
I want to defend Lionheart if you don't mind however.

For one, Dooku gets one shotted if he attempts to block an explosion from Lionheart at Range due to force amplification not covering his whole body unless he wills it so, as such, an AoE attack will absolutely kill Dooku.

And while Lionheart only needs to get one hit in during a CQC fight to kill Dooku due to his durability unless he blocks (only High 7C Dura without blocking with a Saber and wall level otherwise) Lionheart will be safe due to his aura, so Lionheart needs one hit while Dooku needs several to get past his aura.

Just saying.
 
Dooku's force amplification absolutely covers his whole body. It'd be splattered blocking the force of Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi if it didn't.
 
<Blocking the force

See that's the thing right there, blocking with the Lightsaber while Force amped is what allows them to block High 7C strikes and blasters.

It's why In Order 66 Jedi were dying to blasters that they weren't capable of blocking.

It's why Anakin was able to slice GG Mace's arm when he was vastly weaker then Mace.

If he gets hit on his body by an attack that he doesn't block it will kill him or at least severely would him while the same can't be said for Dooku.

That's all I'm saying
 
1) PIS

2) Anakin isn't vastly weaker than Mace. Multiple statements in canon and general scaling in the Clone Wars shows Mace approximately equal to Dooku

3) force users have been hit with omnidirectional telekinetic blasts and survived, that argument doesn't cut it
 
Everyone who is Qrow level is just a lower level of High 7-C scaling from Half Maiden Cinder
 
Because if Half Maiden Cinder was >>>>>>>> Qrow, she would have killed him on the spot when he rescued Amber instead of withdrawing
 
Qrow fended off half maiden Cinder when she first stole her power and Glynda fought on equal grounds with her in the first episode of the series.

Qrow scales directly to Tyrian and Winter from their fights.

Hazel is comparable to Tyrian, dominated Qrow in combat, and fought on par with Oscar

Leo fought and took hits from Oscar, put Qrow on the defensive with his attacks and sent him flying on one occasion, and damaged Weiss' amped Queen Lancer which was able to impale Hazel through the chest
 
torch wasalready retreatingbefore he was attacked, and her being stealthy was pretty important for later plans
 
Glynda traded attacks with Half Maiden Cinder and Cinder ran from Qrow when he appeared.

Tyrian was also in charge of hunting down the Spring Maiden and Watts was unsure if two Maidens would be able to kill Qrow fast enough before people took notice of the battle.
 
Qrow fended off half maiden Cinder when she first stole her power and Glynda fought on equal grounds with her in the first episode of the series


qrow didn't even attack her, she just got her power, shot him and disapeared.

Glynda didn't really fight her either, and I find the idea of cinder loosing to her if she could actualy attack head on to be unlikely at best. She was fiering throwaway shots at glynde, glynda threw attacks at her that didn't get stopped by cinders attacks only because they could reform after being blown to pieces and then cinder vaporized the attack.


Still, even if they scale to half maiden, they shouldn't scale above her casual, which would still put him at 7-C. But I digress, count fra
 
Cinder also had kinda 0 reasons to let Qrow get away with Amber given that she still needed half of the power (which she says like, a minute later)
 
But cinder is stronger than qrow, that's for sure. Unless qrow is stronger than ozpin, which feels plain stupid
 
Voting Dooku for higher skill, precog, mind manipulation, and the versatility that comes with the force
 
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