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Mortal Kombat Timelines Revision

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The two timelines despite being similar in events at first glance, they actually have major alterations and retcons like the MK2 characters being in the first part, Mileena and Quan Chi are drastically different, Smoke Fate, Kabal has a different origin story, progression and etc.

Original Timeline:

Most characters will be scaled from this, 9-A for the regular ones and at least 9-A for those phisically stronger like Goro. They also consistent take exposions of this power in the early komics. For the speed most characters are SuperHuman thanks to Shujinko running speed with the exception of Kabal, who is Subsonic since he seen and stated in both timelines to be faster than a blur. He is normally the fastest character sans Shujinko copying him or the Top and God Tiers, characters such as Mavado managed to react and keep up with him in combat as SuperHuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. Most characters gets at least Class K lifting strength thanks to Scorpion and Sub-Zero ripping spines, which was calced at this much force.

For the Top Tiers like Restricted Raiden, they will scale to the Low 7-C part of this calc since its violent fragmentation.

Their speed will remain the same Massively Hypersonic since Raiden is the God Thunder and rappresent it in both timelines, shown this in his MK2 ending, the Komic, his intros in MKX and etc.

Current Timeline:

For the new and current timeline the phisically strong characters like Kintaro will be scaled to this calc, while the phisically weaker characters will receive lower values as at least 8-B+ since the 8-A value is on the low range.

For the speed, it will be same sans that the reactions and combat speed section will be higher as Supersonic thanks to Reptile reacting to bullets, so SuperHuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed, Kabal is Subsonic with Supersonic reactions and combat speed.

The Current Timeline Top Tiers will scale to this.

The God Tiers such as a Full Power Elder God, Together and the One Being will remain the same since Shao Kahn was merging the realm in both timelines, Shinnok Fallen Elder God Status and the fact in order to create the realms the Elder Gods had to defeat the One Being. [Their speed is Massively Hypersonic+ from Raiden being the Definitive God of Thunder in this state].

I will also add a quote, a summuary, explain their moves and polish the pages better.

These things are not as difficult as the next step, which is the:

Powerscaling:

While the old timeline has a decent powerscaling with characters, the new one is bad and a mess that will be taken very poorly since it has countless issues.

The early Komics had stuff like Jax taking on Kintaro, Goro being stronger than Kintaro [Which was contraddicted by MK2 and MKA Kintaro Bio's] and Hydro, a ninja who was never seen nor mentioned in the games. The current ones has Kotal Kahn being portrayed better than the game with him easily defeating Rain, ripping Goro arms and fight Reiko to moments like Tremor being taken down pretty easily by Sonya. These Komics gave heavy buffs to Scorpion and Sub-Zero. So i will try to make a decent powerscale with both timelines:

* Original Havik: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to the other characters]

* Current Havik: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Fought with Takeda]

* Cassie Cage: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to other characters]

* Inner Power Cassie: Town level. Massively Hypersonic. Class 25. [Defeated Corrupted Shinnok]

* Original Cyrax: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to the other characters]

* Current Cyrax: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to Sektor]

* Erron Black: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Oneshotted Kobra and Tarkatans fodders, is decent challenge to Cassie and was going to kill Rain]

* Original Fujin: Small Town level. Massively Hypersonic. [Fought Bi-Han with the Icons]

* Current Fujin: Town level. Massively Hypersonic. [Comparable to Raiden, briefly fought Shinnok]

* Unrestricted Fujin: Planet level. Massively Hypersonic+. [The same vain as Raiden]

* Great Kung Lao: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Defeated a much weaker Shang Tsung, but lost to Goro]

* Original Hsu Hao: Likely Small Building level. [Easily killed by Jax]

* Current Hsu Hao: City Block level+. [Beated a weakened Kenshi, oneshotted by Scorpion]

* Jacqui Briggs: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to Cassie]

* Original Jarek: Likely Small Building level [Comparable to Hsu Hao]

* Current Jarek: City Block level+. [Cornered Cassie and Jacqui, but that's it]

* Original Jax: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to Sonya]

* Current Jax: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Stabbed Johnny Cage]

* Original Johnny Cage: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Improved upon Armageddon where he gained the upper hand against a weakened Shinnok Duplicate]

* Current Johnny Cage: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Improved upon Mortal Kombat X where in MK9 he jobbed to almost everyone]

* Inner Power Johnny Cage: Town level. Massively Hypersonic. [Defeated Shinnok]

* Original Kabal: Small Building level. Subsonic. [Defeated Mavado in Deception]

* Current Kabal: At least City Block level+. Subsonic with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Fought with Sheeva and Kenshi]

* Kai: Likely Small Building level. [Comparable to Kobra]

* Original Kano: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Stabbed Bo Rai Cho]

* Current Kano: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Held his own against Sonya]

* Original Kenshi: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Fought and survived a battle with Mavado, became stronger in Armageddon where he managed to kill a weakened Sheeva]

* Current Kenshi: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Defeated Nightwolf]

* Kira: Likely Small Building level. [Comparable to Jarek]

* Kobra: Likely Small Building level. [Comparable to Kira]

* Original Kung Lao: At least Small Building level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Thanks to Bo Rai Cho training he is a formidable opponent, should be able to take on Goro]

* Current Kung Lao: Multi-City Block level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [While not as strong as Liu Kang, he has high regards from Raiden. Managed to defeat Goro and Kintaro, which led Shao Kahn to kill him]

* Original Liu Kang: Small Town level. Massively Hypersonic. [Defeated Shang Tsung, Shao Kahn and Shinnok. Only the Deadly Alliance of Quan Chi and Shang Tsung managed to kill him]

* Current Liu Kang: Town level. Massively Hypersonic. [Almost killed Shao Kahn, was the only Revenant that injured Raiden. Was defeated by Jax because Quan Chi was weakened or PIS]

* Original Mavado: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Defeated Kenshi and Kabal]

* Current Mavado: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Heavily injured Erron Black and required Cassie and Jacqui to take him down]

* Mokap: At least Wall level+. Superhuman. [Weaker than most of the cast]

* Original Nightwolf: At least Small Building level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Wounded Sheeva]

* Current Nightwolf: At least City Block level+. Likely Town level with Heavens from Above. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Defeated Quan Chi and Noob Saibot. Used Heavens from Above to kill an amped Sindel]

* Original Raiden: Small Town level. Massively Hypersonic. Class 25. [Fought with Shinnok and the Deadly Allience, through he lost to the powerful duo]

* Current Raiden: Town level. Massively Hypersonic. [Created a thunderstorm of this power]

Unrestricted Raiden: Planet level. Massively Hypersonic+. [Defeated Shao Kahn, who was merging the realms]

* Original Sektor: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to Cyrax]

* Current Sektor: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Fought with Smoke and Nightwolf]

* Shujinko: At least Small Building level. At least Small Building level. Subsonic [Can copy Kabal speed]. [Fought evenly with Elder Gods Champion Monster and Scorpion]

* Everyone Powers Shujinko: Small Town level. Massively Hypersonic. Class 25. [Defeated Onaga]

* Original Sonya Blade: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to Jax]

* Current Sonya Blade: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Took down Quan Chi]

* Original Stryker: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Sucker punched Mileena and tossed Kabal]

* Current Stryker: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Despite him defeating Kintaro is PIS, he took down Reptile and harmed Mileena]

* Original Kuai Liang: At least Small Building level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Defeated Smoke and Noob, who injured Goro alongside Sareena]

* Current Kuai Liang [With the Dragon Medallion]: Town level. Massively Hypersonic. [Put up a good fight against Scorpion, who injured and confident to kill Raiden. Froze a city over time with the Dragon Medallion that enhances his powers, then fought with Scorpion again in X]

* Takeda: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Defeated Ermac and was said to have surpassed his father]

* Original Tremor: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Superior to the other members that were easily defeated by Jax, his stronger attacks should be this powerful]

* Current Tremor: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Destroyed the ruined palace of Z'Unkahraha with an earthquake, which impressed Kintaro]

* Triborg: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to the other Cyborgs]

* Restricted Argus: Small Town level. Massively Hypersonic. [Comparable to his sons]

* Unrestricted Argus: Planet level. Massively Hypersonic+. [Comparable to the others Unrestricted characters]

* Blaze: Planet level. Massively Hypersonic+. [Can destroy or merge the realms]

* Daegon: Small Town level. Massively Hypersonic. [Comparable to Taven, who bested Dark Raiden and Fujin]

* Original Jade: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Saved Kitana alongside Sindel]

* Current Jade: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to Smoke]

* Original Kitana: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to Mileena]

* Current Kitana: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Fought with many opponents of this level]

* Original Rain: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Fought Jade]

* Current Rain: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to fellow Tanya and Mileena]

* Original Sindel: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Freed Kitana alongside Jade]

* Current Sindel: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to the other Revenants]

* Amped Sindel: Likely Town level. Massively Hypersonic. [Was amped by Shao Kahn himself, along with Shang Tsung and many other souls, stomped many heroes and required Nightwolf to kill himself]

* Original Tanya: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to the other female ninjas]

* Current Tanya: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to fellow Rain and Mileena]

* Taven: Small Town level. Massively Hypersonic. Here the story. [He bested a lot of characters including Fujin who was serious to stop him, and Dark Raiden who was said to be as a ruthless as Shao Kahn]

* Ashra: At least Small Building level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to Noob and Reiko]

* Drahmin: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Harmed Scorpion along with Moloch]

* Moloch: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Harmed Scorpion along with Drahmin]

* Meat: At least Wall level+. Superhuman. [Comparable to Mokap]

* Original Noob Saibot: At least Small Building level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Injured Goro and fought with Shujinko and Sub-Zero]

* Current Noob Saibot: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Despite losing to every battle, he shoud be comparable to most characters. Raiden described as a threat]

* Icons Bi-Han: Small Town level. Massively Hypersonic. Class 25. Empowered by the Icons. [Defeated Fujin, The other elementals and Quan Chi].

* Original Quan Chi: Small Town level. Massively Hypersonic. [Much stronger than his current counterpant since he planned to betray Shinnok, injured Shao Kahn, Liu Kang and Raiden alongside Shang Tsung]. Here is the video.

* Current Quan Chi: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Gets defeated by a lot of characters, oneshotted by Fujin and willing to resurrect Shinnok]

* Original Sareena: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to other characters]

* Original Demon Sareena: At least Small Building level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Stronger than before, escaped in order to not harm Sub-Zero]

* Current Sareena: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Fought with Revenant Kitana for a while]

* Original Scorpion: At least Small Building level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Became the Elder Gods Champion and fought with Shujinko]

* Current Scorpion: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Defeated Nightwolf, but lost to Johhny Cage]

* Current Scorpion-Hanzo Hazashi: Town level. Massively Hypersonic. Overpowered Raiden and was confident to kill him.

* Original Shinnok: Small Town level. Massively Hypersonic. [Fought with Raiden and Liu Kang]

* Current Shinnok: Town level. Massively Hypersonic. [Fought Raiden, Fujin and Inner Power Johnny Cage]

* Corrupted Shinnok: Town level. Island level Enviromental Damage. Massively Hypersonic. [Fought Inner Power Cassie Cage]

* Unrestricted Shinnok: Planet level. Massively Hypersonic+. [Comparable to the other Elder Gods, nearly destroyed the earth against Raiden]

* Original Smoke: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. Class 1. [Fought with Sareena, Noob partner]

* Current Smoke: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to Jade]

* Dariou: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to Hataru]

* Darrius: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to Darrius]

* Hotaru: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Impaled Li Mei]

* Original Baraka: Likely Small Building level. Superhuman. [A Jobber]

* Current Baraka: City Block level+. Superhuman. [Still remains a Jobber]

* Bo Rai Cho: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to the Great Kung Lao]

* Chameleon: At least Small Building level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Has Noob and Ermac styles]

* D'vorah: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Defeated Rain and Tanya]

* Original Ermac: At least Small Building level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Fought and freed many warriors, including Kung Lao]

* Current Ermac: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Ripped Jax arms. A combined attack with Mileena harmed Reiko]

* Original Goro: At least Small Building level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [A phisically strong character]

* Current Goro: Multi-City Block level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. Class 5. [Fought with Kung Lao and Kotal Kahn]

* Khameleon: At least Small Building level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. Class 5. [Comparable to Chameleon]

* Original Kintaro: At least Small Building level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Stronger than Goro]

* Current Kintaro: Multi-City Block level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to Goro, survived an explosion of this power]

* Kotal Kahn: Multi-City Block level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Ripped Goro arms and fought Reiko]

* Li Mei: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Defeated Kano]

* Original Mileena: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to Kitana]

* Current Mileena: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [A combined attack with Ermac harmed Reiko]

* Original Motaro: At least Small Building level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Rival to Goro and Sheeva]

* Current Motaro: Multi-City Block level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Was going to kill Johnny Cage, Shao Kahn considered him an important ally]

* Nitara: At least Small Building level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Defeated Ashra]

* Onaga: Small Town level. Massively Hypersonic. [The Deadly Alliance and Raiden were unable to stop him, but Shujinko with all the powers was able to do so]

* Unrestricted Onaga: Planet level. Massively Hypersonic+. [Comparable to other Unrestricted characters]

* Original Reiko: At least Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [A powerhouse since the Original Timeline]

* Current Reiko: Multi-City Block level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Easily defeated Jax. Ermac and Mileena had to combine their attacks to harm him. Fought with Kotal Kahn]

* Blood God Reiko: Likely Town level. Massively Hypersonic. Absorbed the onergy of Raiden and other fighters. According to Nitara ending a Blood God should be this strong. Died because he was unable to find blood to sustain himself]

* Original Reptile: Small Building level. Superhuman with Subsonic reactions and combat speed. [Comparable to other lesser ninjas like Rain]

* Current Reptile: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Started as a jobber in 9, but should be comparable to the other members of Kahn group in X]

* Original Shao Kahn: Small Town level. Massively Hypersonic. [Killed Onaga]

* Current Shao Kahn: Town level. Massively Hypersonic. [Fought with Liu Kang]

* Unrestricted Shao Kahn: Planet level. Massively Hypersonic+. [Was going to merge the realms in both timelines]

* Original Shang Tsung: Small Town level. Massively Hypersonic. . [Killed Liu Kang, took down Raiden alongside Quan Chi]

* Current Shang Tsung: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Suffered the same situation as Quan Chi]

* Original Sheeva: At least Small Building level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Is Kintaro replacement]

* Current Sheeva: Multi-City Block level. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Heavily improved in the X Komic where she won the battle royal contest for the crown of the Shokan, becoming the queen of her people]

* Skarlet: At least City Block level+. Superhuman with Supersonic reactions and combat speed. [Fought with Mileena]

Status: Completed.
 
I have unlighted it for now, i actually separed each character in order to cover all of them. It's actually simplier once is accepted.
 
I agree with this idea (on another note since we're doing this for MK and SC should we do this with KI)
 
Looks good aside from maybe a few typos. But sure looks like hell to get it all finished.
 
I don't have enough time available to be of much help, but you can check the Knowledgeable Members List for people to ask to comment here.
 
This looks good.

Another thing to add is that current Scorpion beat Johnny, Sonya and Cassie while restriting himself as to not kill them, and proceeded to fight and kill Quan Chi.
 
This looks pretty good. Though I do have one small question regarding Raiden. Why does he have reality warping based on creating a temple in the mountains?? Shouldn't that just be matter manipulation?
 
Maybe we should highlight this after all?
 
Antvasima said:
Maybe we should highlight this after all?
I do think it is highlight worthy, but I dont see a problem with it at two glances.

MK is one of the more popular fighting game verses and this is basically rescaling the entire verse.
 
Okay. Dark649 is allowed to highlight the thread again when he comes back then.
 
Looks good, though perhaps we could adopt either the collapsing tabs or move the scaling to a blog with each character grouped into a tier based on AP/speed, since the two appear strongly linked.
 
Looks fine, reminder that the current Scorpion should have 3 keys.

Hanzo | Scorpion | Idk how should i call this (Hanzo+Scorpion powers, Scorpion infused powers).
 
I am not very knowledgeable about Martal Kombat, but it seems like 3 admins agree with the changes so far.
 
Seems pretty comprehensive. I don't see any issues with the changes.
 
Yes. The Malibu comic has characters like Sing and Sang, who never appeared nor mentioned in the games at all, also the Sonya and maskless Shao Kahn marriage plot is enough to make it non-canon.
 
Dark649 said:
Yes. The Malibu comic has characters like Sing and Sang, who never appeared nor mentioned in the games at all, also the Sonya and maskless Shao Kahn marriage plot is enough to make it non-canon.
Okay then, care to do the honors?
 
so are we gonna apply the changes now?? If so, should we split into different groups as to cut down the workload?
 
Only myself it will be very time consuming, but i need users that are not busy and can make edits without messing the page structure.
 
It is appreciated [I finalized the layout], but i need three more users because there are all the characters icluded sans Frost, Monster, Jung Jin and Ferra/Torr. It will be from numbers:

First User: A to D.

Second: E to I.

Third: L to M.

Fourth: N to R.

Fifth: S to Z.
 
The editors who help you should please make sure to update both the tiers, the attack potencies, the striking strengths, the durabilities, and if necessary the tier categories at the bottom of the pages.
 
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