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Ness vs. Freddy Krueger

Ness. PSI power, better mind hax and physical stats give him an edge, plus he can use Teleport to take both outside of the Dream World. We're talking a kid who can frag diamonds and stomp dinosaurs with a bat. Plus he could destroy the Dream World as he did to his Magicant. He has resistance to mind hax but Freddy doesn't.
 
Clyde McReady said:
Theglassman12 said:
@clyde Freddy has more than just Mind Hax.
So did Gyigas, he gets fodderized.
1. That was in Ness' Low 2-C key.

2. He did not get fodderized. In fact Ness was getting his but handed to him before the player showed up.

3. A>B>C Logic isn't used here.
 
@Clyde do you have proof that Ness will start off with that?? Cause freddy can screw with him in a dozen different ways.
 
The Wright Way said:
Clyde McReady said:
ZacharyGrossman273 said:
Can't freddy just use a time loop?
Not if Ness takes him out of the world, he can't.
And how would Ness do that?
He canonically dragged objects from the Magicant to the physical realm, and in all versions all it takes to pull Freddy into realoty is grabbing him and waking up. Plus, Ness absorbed his Magicant, which was a physical reality with multiple planets, I'm sure he can absorb the vague sized Dream World, cutting off Freddy's power source. He can also purge objects and people from the influence of demons and beings like Giygas and Giygas >>> Dream Demons, so he obviously can take Freddy's powers away.
 
Theglassman12 said:
@Clyde do you have proof that Ness will start off with that?? Cause freddy can screw with him in a dozen different ways.
All of which will fail. Matter? Ness can fight while turned into a shroom or diamonized, sheer force? Ness tanks nukes? Fears? Ness has 100 of Guts by the end and didn't fear a beast like Giygas. BFR? Ness can teleport? Mind Hax? PSI Shield. I don't think you've ever played Earthbound
 
Clyde McReady said:
I don't think you've ever played Earthbound
No shit, that's why I'm asking you.

Also show me proof that he can resist Freddy's Hax, cause there's not much that he can resist on his profile.
 
And yes, Ness can open up with that, seeing as Paralysis, Flash, Shields and Rocking are all common strategies and even mandatory for beating bosses, unlike the powers you cherry pick for Freddy which are mostly one time things and didn't work against Ash and Jason.
 
Theglassman12 said:
Clyde McReady said:
I don't think you've ever played Earthbound
No shit, that's why I'm asking you.
Also show me proof that he can resist Freddy's Hax, cause there's not much that he can resist on his profile.
Why, of course. As fun as it would be to copy paste, the site doesn't allow it on phones. Still, I countered every type of hax Freddy has on Ness. Plus, Freddy only has one Multi-City Block lvl feat, as opposed to Ness who took nukes to the face and can dish out more. Freddy has been put through hell by Wall levelers like Ash and Jason, while Ness can stomp foes who can stomp a Large Building sized Golem.
 
Theglassman12 said:
Have you even looked at Freddy's profile? He has a 7-C tier, not an 8-A tier.
Yeah, hence why I said feats. He's clearly there but it's irrelevant, it's only because his Dream World is the size of a Town. He has no durability feats that put him even past Wall, it even says that he only takes stuff of the kind because his powers make him hard to kill. That and again, Ness can consume space at interplanetary range and no sold the power of the Evil Mani Mani, which makes Freddy's mind hax look like a joke because it could turn an entire city evil, bring objects to life and possess the masses. Plus, it's an Earthbound rule that whenever Ness starts a fight he ALWAYS shoots first. And if his stats are higher than his foe (like here), he gets two free shots. More than enough to mindwipe Freddy into not using his hax and then splattering him and the Dream Demons.
 
First off you're using game mechanics to justify Ness attacking first, and second off, it doesn't matter if Freddy's a glass cannon considering he has numerous different immortalities that make sure that he lives. And again, you haven't showed me any proof that Ness is resistant to any of his other hax.
 
No, it's not, the 4th wall breaking animals straight up tell it to Ness inside the story, play the game before assuming. Second, it does, this is a one on one battle and Ness only has to win once. Even through your fallacies, it's lore that Freddy can only resurrect through specific means, Ness can kill intangible beings, spirits, astral demons, absorb entire planets in matter and mind wipe Freddy into not using his powers or mindwipe SpringWood as a whole into forgetting Freddy exists. And what hax? You've brought up squat to the table. If a Town lvl telepath couldn't affect Ness neither can Freddy and since Ness can heal himself from being turned into diamonds, then Freddy literally can't win. Heck, Ness can even transmit his soul back to his body and fix it. Seriously, play the game, it's gold compared to the Elm Street series.
 
I did. None of that would work, I already explained why mind and matter won't work, nor BFR and again, Ness shoots first. Freddy has a history of playing and toying with foes, he'll waste time trying to scare Ness while Ness can turn him mindless with a PSI attack. Freddy is a glass cannon, Ness isn't.
 
Just because Ness can teleport it doesn't mean that he can get out of the BFR. If that were the case, I can say that Goku can teleport out of Homura's BFR cause he can teleport. And for the last time, being a glass cannon doesn't mean anything when he can still live through numerous ways.
 
So you're gonna pull a rick and Morty tactic and say that I don't understand the series? Yeah, cause a game about kids fighting bad guys with bottle rockets and baseball bats is apparently a difficult thing for a feeble mind to understand.

Show me proof that Ness' teleportation can get him out of being BFR'ed.
 
Theglassman12 said:
Yeah, cause a game about kids fighting bad guys with bottle rockets and baseball bats is apparently a difficult thing for a feeble mind to understand.
Citizen Kane's nothing but a salty rich guy ******* with people before he dies obsessed with a piece of wood. Anything can sound dumb if you simplify it to such levels.
 
Theglassman12 said:
So you're gonna pull a rick and Morty tactic and say that I don't understand the series? Yeah, cause a game about kids fighting bad guys with bottle rockets and baseball bats is apparently a difficult thing for a feeble mind to understand.
Show me proof that Ness' teleportation can get him out of being BFR'ed.
I can and I will. Show me a solid scan of Freddy BFR'ing Jason or Ash (fighters not victims) and then we talk. I don't have to make a defense if you're too lazy to make an offense. Facts are, Ness always shoots first, Freddy is a glass cannon and has zero hax resistance against Mind.
 
Look who's talking, you're also someone who doesn't show any proof that ness can do any of these things to counter Freddy's hax.
 
Clyde McReady said:
Theglassman12 said:
So you're gonna pull a rick and Morty tactic and say that I don't understand the series? Yeah, cause a game about kids fighting bad guys with bottle rockets and baseball bats is apparently a difficult thing for a feeble mind to understand.
Show me proof that Ness' teleportation can get him out of being BFR'ed.
I can and I will. Show me a solid scan of Freddy BFR'ing Jason or Ash (fighters not victims) and then we talk. I don't have to make a defense if you're too lazy to make an offense. Facts are, Ness always shoots first, Freddy is a glass cannon and has zero hax resistance against Mind.
Here and here:
Freddy BFRs Jason
 
Theglassman12 said:
Look who's talking, you're also someone who doesn't show any proof that ness can do any of these things to counter Freddy's hax.
Why should I when you've been a crybaby instead of getting proof yourself? This stuff is in Ness' profile, shame you're too lazy.
 
Uhh... Could you try to actually provide more scans / give context and better explain your case instead of being so rude and condescending? No one wants this thread to devolve into a shitstorm
 
Clyde McReady said:
Theglassman12 said:
Look who's talking, you're also someone who doesn't show any proof that ness can do any of these things to counter Freddy's hax.
Why should I when you've been a crybaby instead of getting proof yourself? This stuff is in Ness' profile, shame you're too lazy.
I find it funny that you call other people crybabies when you're the one throwing insults around for no good reason. Go to the YouTube comment section if you feel like throwing a temper tantrum. We have standards of decency here and you currently aren't meeting them.
 
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