Lion vs Composite Human

Keeweed said:

"Along with a glock" you don't even need the composite human; I could kill a lion if you gave me a pistol. (Seriously remove the pistol it makes this a stomp in the humans favor since even children could kill a lion if you gave them a gun they could operate).

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Megaquake2012 said:

Ignoring the fact that this is the world's greatest Marksman and the worlds best hunter so giving him a Glock makes this a stomp,
I'm pretty sure no matter what you give CH, it's a stomp.

Hand to Hand is fairer, but I still think CH pulls off a win due to better speed and skills/Intellgience. Possibly an AP advantage but eh.

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Keeweed said:

"Along with a glock" you don't even need the composite human; I could kill a lion if you gave me a pistol. (Seriously remove the pistol it makes this a stomp in the humans favor since even children could kill a lion if you gave them a gun they could operate).

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CCFB said:

Keeweed said:

"Along with a glock" you don't even need the composite human; I could kill a lion if you gave me a pistol. (Seriously remove the pistol it makes this a stomp in the humans favor since even children could kill a lion if you gave them a gun they could operate).

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I doubt it. The Lion would cross the distance and tear your throat out before you would aim correctly. And one shot to the stomach isn't going to kill a big animal like that

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Megaquake2012 said:

Composite Human can draw the Glock and fire in 200 Miliseconds with good aim, you're forgetting that this is the world's greatest Marksman? AND with a Katana he can slice and react at 55 MPH. 5 MPH faster than the lion.

Second, the lion one-shotting an adult woman isn't that impressive, since CH could do the same. A lady using Hysterical Strength was able to tangle with a Polar Bear for a while, taking hits and fighting back aswell. I see no reason as to why CH can't do the same except even better since he is way more skilled and powerful in Base than an average Human is. Not to mention Hysterical Strength also increases our running speed to 40 MPH and our Combat/Reactions to an Unknown degree. Likely far faster though.

To put it bluntly, CH should be able to not only keep up with the Lion, but he might be able to blitz it. If we ignore the hypotheical Hysterical Strength boost, then we still have a slight speed advantage.

SoI think CH pulls off a win no matter what.

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CCFB said:

Megaquake2012 said:

Composite Human can draw the Glock and fire in 200 Miliseconds with good aim, you're forgetting that this is the world's greatest Marksman? AND with a Katana he can slice and react at 55 MPH. 5 MPH faster than the lion.

Second, the lion one-shotting an adult woman isn't that impressive, since CH could do the same. A lady using Hysterical Strength was able to tangle with a Polar Bear for a while, taking hits and fighting back aswell. I see no reason as to why CH can't do the same except even better since he is way more skilled and powerful in Base than an average Human is. Not to mention Hysterical Strength also increases our running speed to 40 MPH and our Combat/Reactions to an Unknown degree. Likely far faster though.

To put it bluntly, CH should be able to not only keep up with the Lion, but he might be able to blitz it. If we ignore the hypotheical Hysterical Strength boost, then we still have a slight speed advantage.

SoI think CH pulls off a win no matter what.

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And the Lion can cross the distance in 400 miliseconds. One glock pistol shot isn't going to kill the cat. One katana swing isn't going to either. It might even break on the Lion's skull.
When has someone one-shot another person with a punch without counting collateral damage (e.g. them falling and busting their head on concrete? Also, link? There are multiple counts of Polar Bears effortlessly mauling groups of humans and guard dogs. Knowing how these stories go, chances are it wasn't a big one and she just scared it off. They can't do with the Lion, not only because it likely didn't happen, but also because a Lion is leagues faster than a Polar Bear and much more agile. And Felines have incredible reactions, house cats can reach much faster than even athletic humans for an example. Lion still holds a decent speed advantage.

How is he going to blitz it when it can run nearly 25mph faster? I can only see CH winning if he aims for the mouth or eyes, which knowing how aggressive and fast Lions are is gonna be very difficult.

I can see the Lion crossing the distance and just mauling the CH before they can pull their gun. With that it's just a matter of time before the Lion rips their throat out with its superior physical stats.

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Megaquake2012 said:

Oof where do I start....400 Miliseconds is enough for two Glock shots. Possibly to the head, https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...other-wrestles-lost-polar-bear/article703773/ here's the most detailed account of the Polar Bear vs lady story I could find, she was officially recognized by the Canadian government too.

As for blitzing, I already pointed out that CH has a considerable speed advantage with the katana, since he is 55 MPH against a 50 MPH Lion. As for running speed, I already pointed out that CH using Hysterical is 40 MPH, only 10 MPH slower, not to mention our stamina means we can run for hundreds of miles without tire.

While I do understand that Lions are pretty damn fast, we're not exactly slowpokes, with Hysterical Strength we could possibly match their speed if not go even faster, ignoring that we still have better reactions(55 MPH), way better skill, etc.

As for a Human one-shotting another Human, I thought that was pretty obvious? Bruce Lee had to constantly hold back because he was afraid of killing people and I'm pretty sure there are more instances which I can get if you want.

Finally, A Katana doesn't need to be aimed at the head, how would the lion defend against it's stomach being sliced up or some other weak spot?

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CCFB said:

We kill them because we have very strong weaponry and equipment. And those African tribes just go for the tongue and rip it out; many still die anyways. You're talking about the Maasai. We're driving them to extinction only because we have equipment and use nature for our own things.
There's this Homo Erectus fossil site; all of the camp died, children, adults, elderly. Guess who was the culprit of killing all 15 of them? One cave hyena. Literally one 200lb animal. They used to feed on us as a feed source and we didn't kill them off until the dawn of agriculture, 10k years ago. We are no match even for any medium sized predator without gigantic health boosts and training.

Lions can survive a few pistol shots to be body out of sheer size, body structure and durability. Do you mean impaled? Lion skulls are much stronger than human skulls, which katanas even break on. If the guy swings the katana at its head, the katana will just snap in half and leaving a flesh wound, which Lions deal with everyday.

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• Edit the composite human also has the lifting strength advantage, so what's stopping him from throwing the lion off him and stabbing it in the stomach when it's on the ground. (And he can swing a baseball bat at 100 mph)

Hyper Anon said:

The katana and machete are designed for killing animals like that. Sure the lion is faster and stronger but the thing is, we are at the top of the food chain for a reason, the highest causes of human deaths anually are things that we created, we are killing ourselves more than other animals. Anyway the human needs to fire the gun at the lion's head which would either kill it or injure it, allowing the human to finish it with it's katana or machete. The CH knows the weak points, so he can slash open the jugular vein of the lion causing it to bleed out. Or hit it in the back of it's neck with the machete which could sever the spinal cord and paralyze it which would buy the latter enough time to finish it off. The CH can hit the lion in weak points that would kill it.

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Hyper Anon said:

The katana and machete are designed for killing animals like that. Sure the lion is faster and stronger but the thing is, we are at the top of the food chain for a reason, the highest causes of human deaths anually are things that we created, we are killing ourselves more than other animals. Anyway the human needs to fire the gun at the lion's head which would either kill it or injure it, allowing the human to finish it with it's katana or machete. The CH knows the weak points, so he can slash open the jugular vein of the lion causing it to bleed out. Or hit it in the back of it's neck with the machete which could sever the spinal cord and paralyze it which would buy the latter enough time to finish it off. The CH can hit the lion in weak points that would kill it.

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Katanas actually were meant to kill humans, and machete is a war weapon. We are on the top of the food chain due to weapons not included in this fight. And it's not easy; the Lion is faster and stronger. The Lion could just pounce on them before that and maul them. Humans martial arts are mostly meant for humanoids. And again, the Lion won't just let that happen. The mane also protects the neck from anything like that, so it has another barrier.

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Hyper Anon said:

The katana is also used to kill wall level animals same with machetes. AThey aren't wall level but they can bleed wall level animals to death. Also we are at the top of the food chain for 100K years by using more primitive weapons. The lion is stronger and faster, I didn't say it wasn't. The human is screwed if he tries to beat up the lion but it can delay his death for a while. And lion's mane protects their jugular vein from other lion's bites, it had the mane thousands of years before the katana and machete where developed let alone the glock, lions have rather weak bites, they kill their prey by suffocating them to death and if they wanted to break the neck of their prey, they bite the neck and shook their heads around, snapping the neck. And the human can just jump on the lion at the right time and shoot it in the back of it's head.

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CCFB said:

Hyper Anon said:

The katana is also used to kill wall level animals same with machetes. AThey aren't wall level but they can bleed wall level animals to death. Also we are at the top of the food chain for 100K years by using more primitive weapons. The lion is stronger and faster, I didn't say it wasn't. The human is screwed if he tries to beat up the lion but it can delay his death for a while. And lion's mane protects their jugular vein from other lion's bites, it had the mane thousands of years before the katana and machete where developed let alone the glock, lions have rather weak bites, they kill their prey by suffocating them to death and if they wanted to break the neck of their prey, they bite the neck and shook their heads around, snapping the neck. And the human can just jump on the lion at the right time and shoot it in the back of it's head.

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When have they been used to kill wall level animals? Japan doesn't have any wall level animals. The most they had is a small wolf and that's dead. It's only been used on humans. The machete is way more powerful but animals can survive it. And no, we haven't been on the top of the food chain for 100k years. I would say like 10k at most; the beginning of agriculture. Before that animals held no fear of us and regularly used us as a food source. I don't think you understand how fast and aggressive a Lion is dude. If he tries to fight the Lion, it will just maul him with claws and teeth. And the Lion's mane would protect it from slices or stabs, as it has done before. No one has slit a male Lion's throat. And Lions do not have weak bites by any sense of the word. It's over 1,000 PSI. They can easily break an animal's neck by biting/ Again, you're assuming the Lion will just let that happen, which it won't/

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Hyper Anon said:

Even 10K years ago we still were using primitve weapons. The human does need to fight the lion up close he can easily fight it with the glock. No one has slit a lion's throat because there aren't many composite humans in the world. I thought lions had 400 psi bites. The human can just shoot the lion in the leg and if the lion tried mauling the human, the human would slice open the latter's stomach.

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Keeweed said:

Dude this the composite human; he has bones far denser than an average humans and he can pick up two cars; the machete to the neck is going to cripple or kill the lion, and theirs nothing stopping the human from picking the lion up and throwing it onto the ground since it has class 5 lifting strength compared to the lions class 1 (yes the lion hits harder but it pounce isn't going to work due to the human being able to lift it off of him, and the human could hold the lion down or toss it into areas that allow the human to stab it)

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SoulOfCinder123 said:

Well, voting for the composite human. His strength stomps

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SoulOfCinder123 said:

Can the composite man make some primitive trap with his machete? Like, he sharpens the wooden spikes then dig a hole, camouflages it and lures the lion into it? Pretty sure that was how cavemen did back then in antiquity.

So if this is allowed, I vote for composite human

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CCFB said:

And the Lion is still above that. Lifting does not equal to fights. Do you know how weak human skin is in comparison to even a house cats? The Lion could eviscerate them in one swipe. And no, a machete blow isn't going to break a massive Lion's muscular neck in any way. Do you think the mane is entirely for show? There's many things stopping the human from doing that; including but not limited to: speed of the lion, strength of the lion, aggression of the lion, durability of the lion. The pounce is going to work before the Lion willl immediately be going for the throat. Hold it down and expect it to not maul him in the process?

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Keeweed said:

If the lions goes for the throat that just goes against since it would expose it's neck and stomach to the CH. also the CH can swing a baseball bat at 100 mph meaning that the machete is going into the lion neck or skull at one hundred miles per hour. And the speed difference for both are nothing; neither are two times faster or slower. The lions 5% faster movement speed and is most likely slower with attack and reaction speed (but maybe the lions page is just very vague). Lifting strength does matter in fights like this because you cannot overpower or pounce on something when it can pick up 5000 pounds compared to the lions 500-1000 pounds. The human can support the lions weight with one hand; and could just shot it if he somehow couldn't overpower it (despite being the smartest and most experienced human on the planet, and regular humans already kill lions for sport).

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Keeweed said:

^ stronger in every way; If you ingore the lifting strength advantage, experience advantage, intelligent advantage, versatility and weapon advantage, then sure the lions stronger (its not like in nature lifting strength would be helpful in anyway; I mean being able to pick up your opponent in one hand, definitely isn't helpful in anyway).

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RavenSupreme said:

composite human should absolutely stomp, especially with the weapons at his disposal

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RavenSupreme said:

composite human should absolutely stomp, especially with the weapons at his disposal

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Keeweed said:

STAMINA Humans are almost 100% stamina based; our stamina is off of almost every other animals chart; I (an slightly over weight person) was able to run all the way up a small mountain without stopping; the human differently has better stamina and the speed difference is almost non existent no matter who has the speed advantage. Also once again he has a gun and a metal sword.

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