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Khârn the Betrayer vs Son Goku ~ Redux

Therefir

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A redux of Goku vs Khârn. Goku has become far stronger since then, thanks to Cell's calc.

The fight takes place in New York. They start at ten meters away from each other.

Khâr: 2 (Webcamparrot, DMUA)

Son Goku: 7 (Gargoyle One, Iapitus The Impaler, The real cal howard, Quantu, AKM sama, Xmark12, Arrogant Schmuck)

Inconclusive:

4-B Kharn vs Buu Saga Goku. Speed is equalized. Who wins?

Khârn the Betrayer Updated
Goku SSJ 3
 
I think Goku has the very slight edge here.

AP wise they're around equal, (Goku being slightly higher) but Goku simply has every possible ability that Kharn wouldn't negate.

Flight, Ki Blasts spam, arguably comparable skills.

I can see Goku taking this.
 
Kharn takes this pretty easily. They have roughly similar AP but Kharns durability is like 3,000,000 times higher than Goku's AP and Kharn negs durability with his axe. He definitely is the more experienced fighter as well. Gokus only real advantage is flight which isn't going to be that useful for him anyway because sniping or retreating and firing get negged by Khorne.
 
His AP is hard to gauge but lower end is somewhere around 2x10^47. But his durability scales to taking beatings from Angron and living who is 3.505x10^53 joules. Goku can't even really hurt him honestly.
 
Kharn gets rekt by Angron. That's like saying Krillin's durability scales to Frieza or Cell.

Or at least that's what I heard from Matt.
 
Yeah he gets beat up by Angron but he survives. Even if his durability is only a % of Angrons AP that's still monstrously higher than Goku's AP. Angron is bloodlusted in all of those fights by the way and killed all of his other subordinates before Kharn.
 
Kharn because I want A>B>C logic to have Superman>Goku ovo

Seriously though, Kharn's thousands of years of experience over him and his Durability negating Gorechild should help him win, considering his rather high durability, and minor regen to also help.
 
I just read the previous thread. Good read. A lot of points that are brought up here were also brought up there. I recommend reading that.

Anyway, it was agreed that Goku had a slight AP advantage back then, so now he should have much more of it. Experience is very subjective and it is a "moo point" in this battle as you can say Goku is more skilled than the Kais who are millions of years old. Goku FRA and for reasons in the previous thread, combined.
 
Kharn has been fighting for all those years, and the Kais have done squat.
 
To be fair. Kharn has been fighting people non-stop for 10,000 years last I checked and most of the people he fought were pretty freaking skilled themselves. Kharn has the definate experience advantage.
 
DMUA said:
Kharn has been fighting for all those years, and the Kais have done squat.
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It is still subjective though. The Kais are also trained, like Zamasu. Then there is Hit who is also thousands of years old. Then there is Beerus who is around for like hundreds of millions of years.

Thing is, both Goku and Kharn are pretty skilled.
 
AKM sama said:
DMUA said:
Kharn has been fighting for all those years, and the Kais have done squat.
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It is still subjective though. The Kais are also trained, like Zamasu. Then there is Hit who is also thousands of years old. Then there is Beerus who is around for like hundreds of millions of years.
Thing is, both Goku and Kharn are pretty skilled.
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Kharn has been fighting wars for nearly all of his life.
 
DMUA said:
Kharn because I want A>B>C logic to have Superman>Goku ovo
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Superman > BB, Lavos, 682 confirmed.
 
I genuinely want to hear what the actual argument for Goku winning here is. Since his AP is worse (1 kilofoe vs 2 kilo foe not that it matters because lol gorechild) he's less skilled and his durability is hilariously outclassed. The only advantage he has here is flight and range which barely makes a difference.

Like just saying "flight doe" isn't a good enough argument here. How is Goku actually going to beat Kharn?
 
Not to mention it's out of character for Goku to just keep his distance and spam Ki blasts, when really he prefers to use CQC.

Actually, here's a big thing, Goku going Super Saiyan 3 (Which he proabably will considering the circumstances), his stamina is going to drain out, and eventually he'll be wide open for a clean strike with Gorechild.
 
lol this thread

From what i'm seeing Kharn takes this easily

Goku doesn't sit back and spam ki blast. He always in character flys towards his opponent to try and fight them with his fist.

Goku flys towards Kharn, his durability gets negated by his Axe... gg
 
Yeah... Kharn should have a big advantage with Dura, Dura neging, minor regen, and experience.

Even better. Superman>>>Goku now ovo
 
Such downplay, now turns out that Goku ssj3 is not stronger than Cell lmao.
 
1. This Goku dwarfs 1 KiloFoe and has the AP advantage according to Matt and Azzy(in the previous thread)

2. For Kharn's dura negation to work, he'll have to cut Goku with the sword. It's equivalent to Trunks cutting Goku with his sword. If it can be dodged or blocked, then soul hax won't work.

3. Kharn's regen is like Piccolo's. Gives him a minor edge in that area but definitely not a deciding factor.
 
Lol goku blocking gorechild. This isn't like trunk's sword dude. It has mica dragon teeth and ignores durability. If goku tries to block gorechild he's losing that limb. Not to mention that Kharn is more skilled than Goku. What is he going to dodge every single hit over and over until he can finally actually hurt Kharn? The fact is one good hit from Kharn kills Goku but a good hit from Goku will be lucky if it even phases Kharn.

People seem to be unaware that Kharn's durability went up since the last match as well. He's a lot tougher now.
 
Therefir said:
Such downplay, now turns out that Goku ssj3 is not stronger than Cell lmao.
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No, just not Stronger enough.

If that makes sense.
 
Ok wow you know nothing about Kharn. Firstly Gorechild is not a sword it's a chain axe and secondly IT IGNORES DURABILITY. It slices through things on a molecular level. Trunk's sword does not do that. It's just a fodder sword with Trunk's fodder 4-C ki being put through it. Goku is also less skilled than Kharn so he's lucky if he even dodges the first hit let alone dodges every hit.

Thirdly Kharn's durability is much much better than his AP. Like way way better, way out of Goku's weight class.

Fourthly Goku's range and flight is useless because Khorne negs tactics like running away and shooting or staying out of range and sniping.
 
Kharn gets rekt by Angron, so he can't scale.
 
His durability obviously isn't as good as Angron's AP but his durability is significantly better than his own AP. It's at least high enough that's he's out of Angron's one shot range which even with that low ball makes him thousands of times more durable than Goku's AP.
 
"Khorne negs tactics like running away and shooting or staying out of range and sniping."

100% sure that is not true.
 
Therefir is right. It's like saying Bulma is universal in durability because she still has a head post Beerus bitchslap.
 
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