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Tobirama
Attack Potency
Only Fought against and killed Izuna Uchiha, who was equal to MS Madara Uchiha justification needs to be removed because MS Izuna never equal to MS Madara.
This is not true and causing scaling problems also and that statement means Tobirama can kill Madara.
Minato
Attack Potency
City level+ (His Sage Mode should be comparable to Jiraiya and Naruto)
Minato's SM either comparable to Jiraiya's incomplete SM or Naruto's perfect SM.
Speed
Massively Hypersonic+ (Kept up with Hashirama and Tobirama, dodged hits from Obito)
Minato blitzed them. When Four Hokage leave the shrine for going battlefield they use they maximum speed because they knew they must go to the battlefield as soon as possible.
Feat:
Minato teleport Juubi's TBB to the sea, casually chat with Naruto for 3 pages and in this time place 3 markers in opposite direction. Also, praised by Tobirama for his speed.
Notable Attacks/Techniques
Madara
Madara's attack potency and durability stats full of inconsistencies and wrong scaling.
Attack Potency
Country level with Perfect Susano'o (Stated that his power rivals that of the Bijuu, which includes Kurama)
Massively Hypersonic+ (Able to react to KCM Naruto's assault)
At least City level+ (Stronger than Tobirama), possibly Multi-Continent level with Perfect Susano'o (Tanked Kurama's Bijuudama without any damage, and Hashirama's Shinsuusenju could only partially destroy it), higher with Majestic Attire: Susano'o.
Obito
Powers and Abilities
He has chain manipulation via Gedo Mazo like Sasuke and Madara. Without Gedo Mazo, Rinnegan user don't have chain manipulation on their own.
Intelligence:
He is dubbed as extremely intelligent but he is not and outsmarts other geniuses because he able to became JJ. Also, Sasuke labeled as a genius.
Reasons
He used genjutsu on the Mizukage to start bloodline massacres, not actual manipulation. When he first met Nagato, Konan, and Yahiko and introduced himself as Madara Uchiha he couldn't convince Yahiko. After Yahiko's death, Obito only gives instructions to Nagato while he remains in the shadow and given only capture the Tailed Beasts. He didn't outsmart nearly everyone, including geniuses like Minato, Hashirama, Hiruzen and Tobirama and became the Juubi's Jinchuriki because they didn't know anything about several important events like how someone became JJ, whatever reason he pierced his heart to Kakashi, who is this person and his goals at that moment.
If someone denies this don't forget Naruto able to deduce he becoming Juubi's Jinchuriki and this makes him one of the most intelligent person in Narutoverse above Minato and Tobirama.
Sasuke Uchiha
Attack Potency
Look at Naruto(teenager)
Notable Attacks/Techniques:
Six Paths Chibaku Tensei: ....... Can't use without a Six Paths Yang Mark user.
Durability
Small Planet level with Perfect Susano'o (Survived some of Kaguya's attacks)
Stamina
Very high with comparatively large reserves of chakra (Fought with Kages and bodyguards, Danzo and Team Kakashi with little rest)
I don't know his stamina levels but his reasoning is wrong as we can see his chakra replenished by Zetsu and Karin healed him after Tobi teleport them in his dimension.
Speed
Sasuke didn't blitz SPSM Naruto he used his Amenotejikara. Blitzing SPSM Naruto with the one the best sensory capabilities in the verse result in what? Rel+ or higher?
Naruto Uzumaki(teenager)
His page has 11 key but there is 10 key for lifting strength.
Attack Potency
Small Planet level (Created a moon alongside Sasuke)
Creating moon can't use for their Attack Potency for several reasons.
1) They created the moon with a special technique classified as a sealing in the databook.
2) They did this technique for one time only. After touching Kaguya, Hagoromo regains his Yin-Yang Seals.
3) They did it extremely casually after fighting against Madara and Kaguya and this makes them much higher than their current tier-probably even Planet Level- and I can see outliers, hyperboles, impossibles in the thread.
Suggestio
They need to scale from their individual feats both attack potency and Durability.
Notable Attacks/Techniques:
Six Paths Chibaku Tensei: ....... Can't use without a Six Paths Yin Mark user.
Speed
Massively Hypersonic+ (Kept up with the Deva Path) | Massively Hypersonic+ (Kept up with the Six Paths of Pain)
They are the same person and are they not have the same speed? Doesn't this make his Base=SM for speed?
My English not good enough to explain this correctly but
Massively Hypersonic+ (Kept up with the Third Raikage and dodged his fastest punch)
He dodged Third Raikage while using Sage Mode, not 9-Tails Chakra Mode but Naruto used 9-Tail Chakra Mode when he dodged killing intent Fourth Raikage.
Intelligence
Plagiarism(?). Taking from Narutopedia without changing.
Key: Base Kid Naruto | One-tailed Kid Naruto | Base Teen Naruto | Sage Mode | Tailed Beast Transformations | Nine-Tails Chakra Mode | Fourth Shinobi World War | Tailed Beast Mode (Yang-half Nine-Tails) | Tailed Beast Sage Mode | Six Paths Sage Mode | Tailed Beast Six Paths Sage Mode
Tailed Beast Mode (Yang-half Nine-Tails) and Tailed Beast Six Paths Sage Mode keys unnecessary because this two mode Naruto only create a chakra avatar like normal Susano'o.
My suggestion is:
Naruto
Low 5-B. At least Low 5-B with Six Paths: Ultra-Big Ball Rasenshuriken. Or, this directly At least 5-B.
Naruto Uzumaki(Adult)
Adult Naruto can use Tailed Beast Six Paths Sage Mode because the technique requires Kurama Chakra Cloak+Shadow Clone+SPSM and Naruto has all of it.
Hashirama
Attack Potency
Multi-Continent level (Restrained Second Form Juubi, and is twice as strong as BSM Naruto)
This proves nothing and false because
Speed
Massively Hypersonic+ (Much faster than Base Shippuden Naruto)
Explanation about nature of the Juubi.
Most people think Juubi = 9-Tails+8-Tails+7-Tails+6-Tails+5-Tails+4-Tails+3-Tails+2-Tails+1-Tails but it's incorrect. This explained by Kurama and sensed by Naruto.
Attack Potency and Speed
Six Path Sage Chakra Enhancement
Moon level+ via power-scaling (Shouldn't be much weaker than Kyuubi Chakra Sage Mode Naruto and battled Toneri's golem)
Sub-Relativistic
Juubi
Multi-Continent level (Even when it is not fully charged, its Bijüdama was capable of destroying mountain ranges and entire cities with a single shot. Its Tenpenchii attack caused this much damage)
At least Multi-Continent level, likely higher (Stronger than before. The shockwaves from the Bijüdama redirected to the ocean were even felt from the battlefield)
Massively Hypersonic+ (Outright blitzed BM Naruto. While in incomplete form, its Chakra Beam crossed mountain ranges within two seconds)
Juubi itself has Six Paths Nature Chakra as default because it's Kaguya's will and Obito and Madara gained Six Path Sage Chakra after becoming it's Jinchuuriki. Problem is Kurama who takes Six Paths Chakra from Hagoromo is more powerful than the source itself.
There is two solution for that.
1) Juubi upgraded above Six Path Sage Chakra Enhancement Kurama
2) Six Path Sage Chakra Enhancement Kurama downgraded below Imperfect State Juubi.
Sources
Databook: https://narutoversity.wordpress.com/fourth-databook-jutsu-files/
Scans: *********
Also, it includes Narutopedia in technique classification.
If translations are not reliable please inform me. If you could give me more accurate translations I thank you in advance.
Attack Potency
Only Fought against and killed Izuna Uchiha, who was equal to MS Madara Uchiha justification needs to be removed because MS Izuna never equal to MS Madara.
This is not true and causing scaling problems also and that statement means Tobirama can kill Madara.
Minato
Attack Potency
City level+ (His Sage Mode should be comparable to Jiraiya and Naruto)
Minato's SM either comparable to Jiraiya's incomplete SM or Naruto's perfect SM.
Speed
Massively Hypersonic+ (Kept up with Hashirama and Tobirama, dodged hits from Obito)
Minato blitzed them. When Four Hokage leave the shrine for going battlefield they use they maximum speed because they knew they must go to the battlefield as soon as possible.
Feat:
Minato teleport Juubi's TBB to the sea, casually chat with Naruto for 3 pages and in this time place 3 markers in opposite direction. Also, praised by Tobirama for his speed.
Notable Attacks/Techniques
- Kyuubi Chakra Mode: The first form Minato displayed. It seems to be a mix between Naruto's humanoid Biju Mode and his Kyuubi Chakra Mode, and thus enables him to fully transform into Kurama.
- Biju Mode: After Naruto managed to convince Yin Kurama to make his presence known, Kurama granted Minato the ability to fully transform into a darker shaded version of Naruto's full Biju Form.
Madara
Madara's attack potency and durability stats full of inconsistencies and wrong scaling.
Attack Potency
Country level with Perfect Susano'o (Stated that his power rivals that of the Bijuu, which includes Kurama)
- Kurama superior to other 8 Bijuu and comparing him without proof only wanking Madara. Like saying, Kisame has Bijuu level chakra but which Bijuu.
Massively Hypersonic+ (Able to react to KCM Naruto's assault)
- Naruto attacked him one time with TBB head-on and from the air and shout against Madara.
At least City level+ (Stronger than Tobirama), possibly Multi-Continent level with Perfect Susano'o (Tanked Kurama's Bijuudama without any damage, and Hashirama's Shinsuusenju could only partially destroy it), higher with Majestic Attire: Susano'o.
- This makes Prime Kurama's TBB lesser tier Multi-Continent but Multi-Continent nonetheless with scaling.
- Reflected is the key word. He reflected with his Gunbai and that durability justification goes to his Gunbai, not himself.
Obito
Powers and Abilities
He has chain manipulation via Gedo Mazo like Sasuke and Madara. Without Gedo Mazo, Rinnegan user don't have chain manipulation on their own.
Intelligence:
He is dubbed as extremely intelligent but he is not and outsmarts other geniuses because he able to became JJ. Also, Sasuke labeled as a genius.
Reasons
He used genjutsu on the Mizukage to start bloodline massacres, not actual manipulation. When he first met Nagato, Konan, and Yahiko and introduced himself as Madara Uchiha he couldn't convince Yahiko. After Yahiko's death, Obito only gives instructions to Nagato while he remains in the shadow and given only capture the Tailed Beasts. He didn't outsmart nearly everyone, including geniuses like Minato, Hashirama, Hiruzen and Tobirama and became the Juubi's Jinchuriki because they didn't know anything about several important events like how someone became JJ, whatever reason he pierced his heart to Kakashi, who is this person and his goals at that moment.
If someone denies this don't forget Naruto able to deduce he becoming Juubi's Jinchuriki and this makes him one of the most intelligent person in Narutoverse above Minato and Tobirama.
Sasuke Uchiha
Attack Potency
Look at Naruto(teenager)
Notable Attacks/Techniques:
Six Paths Chibaku Tensei: ....... Can't use without a Six Paths Yang Mark user.
Durability
Small Planet level with Perfect Susano'o (Survived some of Kaguya's attacks)
- Kaguya one-shotted his Susano'o and most of the fight he is either on the sidelines or in another dimension entirely.
Stamina
Very high with comparatively large reserves of chakra (Fought with Kages and bodyguards, Danzo and Team Kakashi with little rest)
I don't know his stamina levels but his reasoning is wrong as we can see his chakra replenished by Zetsu and Karin healed him after Tobi teleport them in his dimension.
Speed
Sasuke didn't blitz SPSM Naruto he used his Amenotejikara. Blitzing SPSM Naruto with the one the best sensory capabilities in the verse result in what? Rel+ or higher?
Naruto Uzumaki(teenager)
His page has 11 key but there is 10 key for lifting strength.
Attack Potency
Small Planet level (Created a moon alongside Sasuke)
Creating moon can't use for their Attack Potency for several reasons.
1) They created the moon with a special technique classified as a sealing in the databook.
2) They did this technique for one time only. After touching Kaguya, Hagoromo regains his Yin-Yang Seals.
3) They did it extremely casually after fighting against Madara and Kaguya and this makes them much higher than their current tier-probably even Planet Level- and I can see outliers, hyperboles, impossibles in the thread.
Suggestio
They need to scale from their individual feats both attack potency and Durability.
Notable Attacks/Techniques:
Six Paths Chibaku Tensei: ....... Can't use without a Six Paths Yin Mark user.
Speed
Massively Hypersonic+ (Kept up with the Deva Path) | Massively Hypersonic+ (Kept up with the Six Paths of Pain)
They are the same person and are they not have the same speed? Doesn't this make his Base=SM for speed?
My English not good enough to explain this correctly but
Massively Hypersonic+ (Kept up with the Third Raikage and dodged his fastest punch)
He dodged Third Raikage while using Sage Mode, not 9-Tails Chakra Mode but Naruto used 9-Tail Chakra Mode when he dodged killing intent Fourth Raikage.
Intelligence
Plagiarism(?). Taking from Narutopedia without changing.
Key: Base Kid Naruto | One-tailed Kid Naruto | Base Teen Naruto | Sage Mode | Tailed Beast Transformations | Nine-Tails Chakra Mode | Fourth Shinobi World War | Tailed Beast Mode (Yang-half Nine-Tails) | Tailed Beast Sage Mode | Six Paths Sage Mode | Tailed Beast Six Paths Sage Mode
Tailed Beast Mode (Yang-half Nine-Tails) and Tailed Beast Six Paths Sage Mode keys unnecessary because this two mode Naruto only create a chakra avatar like normal Susano'o.
My suggestion is:
Naruto
Low 5-B. At least Low 5-B with Six Paths: Ultra-Big Ball Rasenshuriken. Or, this directly At least 5-B.
Naruto Uzumaki(Adult)
Adult Naruto can use Tailed Beast Six Paths Sage Mode because the technique requires Kurama Chakra Cloak+Shadow Clone+SPSM and Naruto has all of it.
Hashirama
Attack Potency
Multi-Continent level (Restrained Second Form Juubi, and is twice as strong as BSM Naruto)
This proves nothing and false because
- Mokuton is a hax especially for Tailed Beasts with their tall size and unfocused power. Mokuton's Bijuu binding, paralyzing, chakra suppressing and absorbing properties.
- Hashirama's Senpō: Myōjinmon (Sage Art: Gate of the Great God) technique is a sealing technique , therefore, this technique can't scale to Hashirama's attack potency and striking strength.
- Hashirama never stated he is more powerful than %50 BSM Naruto, only their chakra is comparable. Hashirama that when Naruto didn't use BSM, therefore Hashirama doesn't scale to BSM Naruto. Also, Hashirama doesn't have natural chakra sensing and when he said this while in Base, this makes it guessing.
- Without proper techniques chakra level is not that important if it does then Juubi, JJ Madara, JJ Obito, Kaguya, JJ Hagoromo go at least 5-A with ease.
Speed
Massively Hypersonic+ (Much faster than Base Shippuden Naruto)
- Hashirama fast enough to physically strike and defend himself against EMS Madara in base and his speed comparable to Tobirama in Edo form.
Explanation about nature of the Juubi.
Most people think Juubi = 9-Tails+8-Tails+7-Tails+6-Tails+5-Tails+4-Tails+3-Tails+2-Tails+1-Tails but it's incorrect. This explained by Kurama and sensed by Naruto.
Attack Potency and Speed
Six Path Sage Chakra Enhancement
Moon level+ via power-scaling (Shouldn't be much weaker than Kyuubi Chakra Sage Mode Naruto and battled Toneri's golem)
Sub-Relativistic
Juubi
Multi-Continent level (Even when it is not fully charged, its Bijüdama was capable of destroying mountain ranges and entire cities with a single shot. Its Tenpenchii attack caused this much damage)
At least Multi-Continent level, likely higher (Stronger than before. The shockwaves from the Bijüdama redirected to the ocean were even felt from the battlefield)
Massively Hypersonic+ (Outright blitzed BM Naruto. While in incomplete form, its Chakra Beam crossed mountain ranges within two seconds)
Juubi itself has Six Paths Nature Chakra as default because it's Kaguya's will and Obito and Madara gained Six Path Sage Chakra after becoming it's Jinchuuriki. Problem is Kurama who takes Six Paths Chakra from Hagoromo is more powerful than the source itself.
There is two solution for that.
1) Juubi upgraded above Six Path Sage Chakra Enhancement Kurama
2) Six Path Sage Chakra Enhancement Kurama downgraded below Imperfect State Juubi.
Sources
Databook: https://narutoversity.wordpress.com/fourth-databook-jutsu-files/
Scans: *********
Also, it includes Narutopedia in technique classification.
If translations are not reliable please inform me. If you could give me more accurate translations I thank you in advance.